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Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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Post by kiba »

na85 wrote: post #141
jamiek88 wrote: post #110

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Let’s not go too far the other way now. He’s chief engineer at spacex for starters.

>He’s chief engineer at spacex for starters. He calls himself that, sure. Elon is a smart guy, and that's why I think he positions himself the way he does. He doesn't want to be Bill Gates, he wants to be perceived as a man of the people. A dudebro who happens to be rich. That's why he's smoking joints with Joe Rogan on camera and tweeting about WSB. There is zero percent chance that Elon is actually doing any techni…

This is 100% public perception that he's a business development guy and all, because all we see is him tweeting, memeing, and sometime making a fool of himself.

He's an engineer, and there's a bunch of engineers who worked with him who will attest to that.

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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Post by lazyasciiart »

beachy wrote: post #146
tedivm wrote: post #65

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Gwynne Shotwell deserves far more of the credit for SpaceX than Musk does.

I'm no fan of Musk's shitty and arrogant behaviour. His treatment of Unsworth was truly disgusting. But that's like saying after a rugby game that the left wing deserved far more of the credit than the coach or captain, since they were the one who ran in the winning try. The thing is that Musk makes things happen. Not in some lame and purely money driven field like crypto or ad tech - but genuinely moving the needle…

No, it's more like saying the left winger deserves more credit than some stupid fan who jumped onto the pitch and got in the way.

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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Post by na85 »

kiba wrote: post #181
na85 wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>He’s chief engineer at spacex for starters. He calls himself that, sure. Elon is a smart guy, and that's why I think he positions himself the way he does. He doesn't want to be Bill Gates, he wants to be perceived as a man of the people. A dudebro who happens to be rich. That's why he's smoking joints with Joe Rogan on camera and tweeting about WSB. There is zero percent chance that Elon is actually doing any techni…

This is 100% public perception that he's a business development guy and all, because all we see is him tweeting, memeing, and sometime making a fool of himself. He's an engineer, and there's a bunch of engineers who worked with him who will attest to that.

>He's an engineer, and there's a bunch of engineers who worked with him who will attest to that.

He's not, and all those quotes from that reddit thread I know you're thinking of are very careful to dance around the point.

He's not an engineer.

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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Post by bccdee »

jgwil2 wrote: post #112
bccdee wrote: post #104

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This may be a somewhat silly question, but why couldn't they just have used flashlights? I'm sure there's an obvious reason, but I don't know what it is.

I assume it wasn't just darkness they were dealing with, but also that the water was so muddy it became opaque, in which case lights wouldn't have helped them.

Ah of course, yeah that must be it.

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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Post by loceng »

geomark wrote: post #180
camjohnson26 wrote: post #72

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Musk's submarine was a joke. The video of it shows it was clearly too large and too rigid to maneuver through the caves. Musk said they would make a video showing the submarine going from point a to b, but never did. Watch these videos of Unsworth both after the rescue and the trial and compare them to Musk's response. It was absolutely sickening. https://youtu.be/uDP6_4jUmiQ https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-50…

I saw and touched the sub; it was featured at a science expo in Bangkok not long after the rescue. It was a metal tube with some plexiglass plates on it with air valves mounted in them. I'm sure there was some engineering involved, but didn't seem at all impressive. My son was a big fan of Elon, the "cool rocket guy". But after his comments about Unsworth he asked me "Why did Elon say that stuff about the man who is…

So now you can update your son based on another comment we know that Elon was lied to by a private investigator - and seems safe to assume his comments based on that faulty/made up information; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27796249

Elon is a good role model, he's not perfect though. I'm not sure why so many people blindly put him on a pedestal assuming he should be superhuman - especially at the abnormal level of pressures and responsibility he has.

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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Post by redis_mlc »

mcguire wrote: post #106
camjohnson26 wrote: post #67

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Vernon Unsworth. He sued Musk for libel in the United States and lost. Musk not only called him "pedo guy" on Twitter, but implied he had married a child bride, when he hadn't, and later hired a private investigator to dry to dig up dirt on Unsworth, which found nothing. Musk also sent this letter to Buzzfeed where he doubled down. He thought it was off the record, and says some terrible things: https://www.buzzfeedn…

" Bizarrely, Unsworth's lawyer was L Lin Wood, famous for later apparently having a mental breakdown and supporting conspiracy theories accusing chief justice John Roberts of pedophilia and murder, and being asked to undergo a mental examination by the state bar of Georgia. " L Lin Wood's handling of the Unsworth trial was widely panned as incompetent. Unsworth is clearly a hero, and Musk inserting himself into that…

Roberts has been associated with Epstein (like Gates), so how is that "bizarre"?

FYI: all of the election lawsuits had a kernel of truth, but I would agree about "incompetent" - the problem is that lawyers often are not election experts or voting machine experts. Also they were pressed for time on filing.

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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Post by mhh__ »

gameswithgo wrote: post #28
ianlevesque wrote: post #16

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I don't think so, towards the end the diver stated: > If need be, we were to give them another shot of ketamine in case they were waking up.

being on ketamine while trapped in a cave would be ammmmaaaaazzziinnngg (ly terrifying)

On the way down from some ketamine I fell asleep in my VR headset while virtually inside someone else's room (high Res photogrammetry), that was spooky - took me a while to work out why I couldn't see my arms.

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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Post by mhh__ »

pmyteh wrote: post #97
laingc wrote: post #48

What is outrageous is that the divers got at most an MBE - on the same New Years Honours list where heroes such as Michael Palin and Twiggy received knighthoods. I have never seen anything really deserving of a knighthood than what those divers did.

The two lead divers (Richard Stanton and John Volanthen) both got the George Medal, the UK's second highest civilian award for gallantry. I think the knighthood is seen more as a kind of national treasure long service award these days.

And civil servants [Yes Minister]

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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Post by rundevilrun »

loceng wrote: post #185
geomark wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw and touched the sub; it was featured at a science expo in Bangkok not long after the rescue. It was a metal tube with some plexiglass plates on it with air valves mounted in them. I'm sure there was some engineering involved, but didn't seem at all impressive. My son was a big fan of Elon, the "cool rocket guy". But after his comments about Unsworth he asked me "Why did Elon say that stuff about the man who is…

So now you can update your son based on another comment we know that Elon was lied to by a private investigator - and seems safe to assume his comments based on that faulty/made up information; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27796249 Elon is a good role model, he's not perfect though. I'm not sure why so many people blindly put him on a pedestal assuming he should be superhuman - especially at the abnormal leve…

musk hired a pi after making defamatory claims

the absolute STATE of musk apologists jfc

Re: “One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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Post by sundvor »

saalweachter wrote: post #169
wnevets wrote: post #155

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That was the exact moment I decided I would never buy a Tesla despite wanting one.

The good news is that the Tesla is far from your only option for an electric car at this point.

Pretty much thanks to Tesla.

Electric cars wouldn't be anywhere near where they are today without him - whatever we may think of his personality, the advancements in tech and environmental impacts for generations to come are real.

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