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Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by bruce343434 »

Crash0v3rid3 wrote: post #149
helsinkiandrew wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate YouTube ads and do my best to block them where I can, but let’s not forget that YouTube is serving a billion hours of video a day, which costs. If you don’t want ads to appear on your videos, you can host the videos on your own website and pay for the data or use another video service. Neither are likely to give the streaming performance or audience you’d get with YouTube.

> I hate YouTube ads and do my best to block them where I can, but let’s not forget that YouTube is serving a billion hours of video a day, which costs. You understand the costs involved to serve billions of hours of video a day yet still block the ads used to help sustain the site? Why not pay for premium?

They don't deserve my subscription, their ads are too annoying and intrusive. Seriously, a 20 minute video can contain 6 midrolls. I recently tried to watch some video about how singapore is the only succesful dictatorship and instead it kept getting interrupted mid-sentence.

At this point I am fully convinced even cable tv has a better signal to noise ratio.

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by Chris2048 »

ghaff wrote: post #97
bluescrn wrote: post #76

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Nobody has managed micropayments that are actually micro. Even F2P games rarely allow you to spend less than about $1 at a time - it's all about chasing whales who'll spend $99.99 repeatedly... In the case of something like YouTube, they'd want vastly more (and as a monthly subscription) to remove the ads than they'd earn from an average user watching the ads. The alternative might have been a 'watch without ads' but…

For charging just a few cents to work, it would have to be normed across a wide range of media to the degree that a meter just transparently clicked against a payment balance in essentially the same manner as turning on a faucet or a light switch. And that's a really high bar in an online world where people are used to either free or a relative handful of all-you-can-eat subscription services that cost enough that pe…

> that's a really high bar in an online world

For all the BS projects google has spent money on, then just killed off, a micropayment system should be easy.

> all-you-can-eat subscription services

Then give an alternative AYCE option too. Just implement micropayment caps. e.g. When total monthly micropayments are => $10, cap it at that amount until some other thresh-hold. Allow pre-payments. easy.

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by freeopinion »

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #132
dilap wrote: post #41

Andrew Kelley of Zig also moved away from YouTube because of forced ads ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjz6xNO63mI ) YouTube is an amazing collection of knowledge, but it's unfortunate that it's in the hands of an entity whose primary goal and motivation is avarice. A degradation of the experience over time seems inevitable. How to organize human endeavors in a way that captures the innovation and superbly focused…

I hate YouTube ads and do my best to block them where I can, but let’s not forget that YouTube is serving a billion hours of video a day, which costs. If you don’t want ads to appear on your videos, you can host the videos on your own website and pay for the data or use another video service. Neither are likely to give the streaming performance or audience you’d get with YouTube.

The original submission here is related to solvespace. Why would solvespace want to have a bigger audience for these videos than just the people who visit their site? And why couldn't they meet the streaming needs of that audience just as well as youtube?

If you are trying to reach a larger and larger audience beyond your own abilities to stream, it sounds like you yourself are advertising. So you are annoyed that the advertising firm you use to advertise is using your advertisement to advertise.

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by peruvian »

SQueeeeeL wrote: post #96
ghaff wrote: post #83

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Consumers need to be able and willing to pay money rather than renting their eyeballs. (And creators need to be willing to pay for hosting/discovery.) If YouTube could make more money as a gated subscription site that charged for uploads and, say, $100/year to access, they'd be more than happy to do so.

Wait, isn't YouTube premium this and basically no one uses it

YouTube Premium is overpriced because it includes Music and other stuff. Easy way around that is signing up using a VPN in Russia or India. My YTP costs $3/mo.

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by Chris2048 »

crazygringo wrote: post #123
upofadown wrote: post #90

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The business deal used to be good. Now there is a sovereignty problem. The free part is not relevant here. We can't help that Google is having problems monetizing a service by first providing an acceptable service and then later changing the terms of the deal. Perhaps their business model is unrealistic.

Google isn't having problems monetizing... their business model is entirely realistic, in fact it's wildly successful. Perhaps the business deal was too good before, and now it's merely good? Previously it was "acceptable" for them to store and host your videos for zero cost and show them without ads, and now you think it's "unrealistic" for them to finally cover those costs with ads?

> their business model .. wildly successful

On what basis? They has an old model, build up the success of the platform, then changed the model. On what basis can we judge the new model successful versus the momentum of the old model?

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by xscott »

abacadaba wrote: post #13
duxup wrote: post #7

I wonder at what point we as internet users will decide that we're willing to pay for services in order to maintain more control? In the meantime I sympathize with folks who in a way have ground rules changed on them, but then again were using a free service where they were the product... The internet is a weird place where we demand everything be free as just a baseline rule, and then complain when the product that…

the main holdup i think is truly effortless and secure, private, and widely accepted micropayments. there's plenty of stuff i'd be willing to pay for if it didn't involve creating yet another account and giving them my credit card info.

I was even willing to create accounts and provide my credit card info for sites with good value, but not being able to cancel online (and being forced to wait on hold for 40 minutes to cancel over the phone) has me unwilling to subscribe to almost anything any more.

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by fabianhjr »

tantalor wrote: post #145
fabianhjr wrote: post #23

I use IPFS and host my media (mainly photography) on my domain. (With cloudflare as a IPFS gateway in case a visitor doesn't use IPFS) Hosting cost: $0. Some details: https://fabian.social/posts/2020-11-07-ipfs-blogging.html Example: https://fabian.social/photography/2021-01-15-incidentes-vial...

Video consumes quite a bit more than imagery.

Though, if you are creating videos you would keep at least your original project export locally (either on your computer or a NAS) so exposing the content wouldn't require additional space.

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by justbored123 »

dilap wrote: post #41

Andrew Kelley of Zig also moved away from YouTube because of forced ads ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjz6xNO63mI ) YouTube is an amazing collection of knowledge, but it's unfortunate that it's in the hands of an entity whose primary goal and motivation is avarice. A degradation of the experience over time seems inevitable. How to organize human endeavors in a way that captures the innovation and superbly focused…

I have to ask the obvious question here: How do you plan to maintain the second largest website on the internet that has high bandwidth demands to serve 4k video content and serves 122 million users a day, 2+ billion a month if you are not willing to even tolerate simple adds that you can easily bypass in 1 minute of your time by installing an add blocker or downloading Brave browser or God forbid paying 10 dollars a month?

My friends will not even host the torrent that they just downloaded for a single hour and my family don't know what torrent is and more important than that, they don't care. Good luck with really large scale p2p solutions. You must be really happy paying 100 bucks on fees to transfer 10 dollars on the Bitcoin or ETH networks, but hey! no adds or "evil" companies!

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by jaworek »

odysee.com is also another good decentralised alternative. YT creators can easily sign up and setup automatic sync of all of their videos. This is a great way to have a backup in case Google decides to ban them or do some wonky policy changes.

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by abacadaba »

briefcomment wrote: post #69
abacadaba wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the main holdup i think is truly effortless and secure, private, and widely accepted micropayments. there's plenty of stuff i'd be willing to pay for if it didn't involve creating yet another account and giving them my credit card info.

I wonder if Bitcoin Cash or something similar can fit that void. It's already possible to send cents for reasonable fees.

LBRY is what had me thinking a lot about this
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