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Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by leephillips » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 4:03 PM UTC

stickfigure wrote: post #127

leephillips wrote: post #104

In the early days of TV, when the first broadcast licenses were being granted, there was a legislative proposal to make advertising on TV illegal. It was defeated, resulting in a century of TV that was largely a wasteland in the service of the tobacco and fast food industries. We have a political choice.

What do you imagine the alternative world of 100% ad-free television would look like? Hundreds of channels of PBS? I think that is naively optimistic.

I don’t know what it would have looked like, obviously. But I think it would have been better than what we got. Even having just two or three PBS-type channels and subtracting the rest would have been an improvement.

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by helsinkiandrew » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 4:03 PM UTC

dilap wrote: post #41

Andrew Kelley of Zig also moved away from YouTube because of forced ads ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjz6xNO63mI ) YouTube is an amazing collection of knowledge, but it's unfortunate that it's in the hands of an entity whose primary goal and motivation is avarice. A degradation of the experience over time seems inevitable. How to organize human endeavors in a way that captures the innovation and superbly focused…

I hate YouTube ads and do my best to block them where I can, but let’s not forget that YouTube is serving a billion hours of video a day, which costs.

If you don’t want ads to appear on your videos, you can host the videos on your own website and pay for the data or use another video service. Neither are likely to give the streaming performance or audience you’d get with YouTube.

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 4:07 PM UTC

dilap wrote: post #41

Andrew Kelley of Zig also moved away from YouTube because of forced ads ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjz6xNO63mI ) YouTube is an amazing collection of knowledge, but it's unfortunate that it's in the hands of an entity whose primary goal and motivation is avarice. A degradation of the experience over time seems inevitable. How to organize human endeavors in a way that captures the innovation and superbly focused…

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Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by fragile_frogs » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 4:08 PM UTC

SQueeeeeL wrote: post #96

ghaff wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consumers need to be able and willing to pay money rather than renting their eyeballs. (And creators need to be willing to pay for hosting/discovery.) If YouTube could make more money as a gated subscription site that charged for uploads and, say, $100/year to access, they'd be more than happy to do so.

Wait, isn't YouTube premium this and basically no one uses it

I have been using YouTube Premium from day one and I absolutely love it.

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by fabianhjr » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 4:08 PM UTC

deadalus wrote: post #37

Youtube Alternatives : Centralized : Dailymotion, Bitchute, Rumble, DTube, Vimeo, Vidlii Decentralized : Odysee(LBRY), Peertube

Peertube is Federated not Decentralized (via ActivityPub)

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by somethingor » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 4:20 PM UTC

CharlesW wrote: post #126

elwell wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you add advertiser-unfriendly content to your video to avoid YouTube forcing ads?

You can turn off ads. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6332943?hl=en

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2020/11/18/youtube...

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by lostmsu » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 4:43 PM UTC

Crash0v3rid3 wrote: post #112

MikusR wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://vancedapp.com/

How about we stop pushing these alternatives that ensure creators never get paid? It’s hard work to make content, many channels are run full time. I know people hate ads, and if that’s the case, just pay for Premium.

Does premium fee go to content authors?

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by lostmsu » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 4:47 PM UTC

upofadown wrote: post #90

crazygringo wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does he expect for a site that serves his videos for free , not to mention recommends them to people as well to get a wider audience? "Sovereignty" is a bizarre word here. It's a business deal . Nobody's ever "sovereign" in any exchange, it's either a good deal or not. If he wants to pay for hosting himself, then go ahead, but no need to act like it's a question of "sovereignty". Nobody's a king here.

The business deal used to be good. Now there is a sovereignty problem. The free part is not relevant here. We can't help that Google is having problems monetizing a service by first providing an acceptable service and then later changing the terms of the deal. Perhaps their business model is unrealistic.

Perhaps it would be useful for competition to require media platforms provide content creators a way out. E.g. a mandatory "redirect to my new site" option.

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by larrykubin » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 4:47 PM UTC

SQueeeeeL wrote: post #96

ghaff wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consumers need to be able and willing to pay money rather than renting their eyeballs. (And creators need to be willing to pay for hosting/discovery.) If YouTube could make more money as a gated subscription site that charged for uploads and, say, $100/year to access, they'd be more than happy to do so.

Wait, isn't YouTube premium this and basically no one uses it

YouTube Premium has tens of millions of subscribers, tons of people use it. I use it so much that I would cancel Netflix before I would cancel YouTube Premium.

Re: Video tutorials now on PeerTube

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Post by regularfry » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 4:49 PM UTC

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #132

dilap wrote: post #41

Andrew Kelley of Zig also moved away from YouTube because of forced ads ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjz6xNO63mI ) YouTube is an amazing collection of knowledge, but it's unfortunate that it's in the hands of an entity whose primary goal and motivation is avarice. A degradation of the experience over time seems inevitable. How to organize human endeavors in a way that captures the innovation and superbly focused…

I hate YouTube ads and do my best to block them where I can, but let’s not forget that YouTube is serving a billion hours of video a day, which costs. If you don’t want ads to appear on your videos, you can host the videos on your own website and pay for the data or use another video service. Neither are likely to give the streaming performance or audience you’d get with YouTube.

They've also dramatically increased the proportion and intrusiveness of those ads over the last year, taking advantage of a near-monopoly position and a captive audience.