SFDC and others could make a big difference by hiring some homeless workers with a dedicated program. Half of the battle is for dignity and a decent resume. There are plenty of people with college degrees on the streets. Simple changes like not requiring a permanent address on job applications and payroll allowing cash cards as a deposit option (many payroll services do support this) are powerful enablers for people who need a hand up.
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Re: 70% of San Francisco residents say quality of life has declined: poll
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
Petty and non-violent crime is only petty and non-violent because the victims don't fight back. I don't know what the solution is, but calling these petty/non-violent feels like an unfair take. A victim is often traumatized about this kind of experiences, but that is never taken into account. I feel San Francisco is such a screwed up place. But many would disagree with me. I don't live there anymore, but it seems peo…
I personally would be terrified to stop a thief in CA, because I suspect that the way CA laws are written, I would be crucified in court for daring to defend property, and most likely I would end up with an assault conviction or something. I'd be hesitant to take that risk even for my own property.
I would be terrified to stop a thief anywhere in the US, because I assume that they have a gun and will just shoot me. I don't own stuff that is worth the risk.
Re: 70% of San Francisco residents say quality of life has declined: poll
#243This is interesting given the protests. As I understand it, San Francisco is generally considered to be a very liberal and progressive city. The politicians are generally considered to be very liberal and progressive. These are the same groups, however, that want to defund the police. I don’t get it. You can want both police reform, and policing, but without the police there’s not really anyone capable, trained, or j…
What's not to get? https://i.imgur.com/8xlOIW9.png The whole point of defunding the police is to get the funding back to where it belongs. https://citymonitor.ai/government/the-reality-of-us-city-bud... - The reality of US city budgets: Police funding eclipses most other agencies’
> The whole point of defunding the police is to get the funding back to where it belongs.
Then Reform the Police would have been a better marketing slogan compared to Defund the police.
Re: 70% of San Francisco residents say quality of life has declined: poll
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
People from other countries do not get welfare in the USA. that is a myth. The problem with 'SF' is people flocking from conservative areas in the US that have solved their homeless problem by literally bussing people to SF. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/...
> People from other countries do not get welfare in the USA. that is a myth. Why do you say it is a myth? "63% of Non-Citizen Households Access Welfare Programs Compared to 35% of native households" https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfa...
From Wikipedia:
"The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an anti-immigration think tank. It favors far lower immigration numbers, and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham and eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton."
[1]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Immigration_Studies
Do you have another source? I am not so convinced by this source.
Re: 70% of San Francisco residents say quality of life has declined: poll
#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
AFAIK they do allow enforcement of criminal warrants for anything violent. They also don't and can't prevent federal agents from doing anything. They just don't actively cooperate or enforce immigration law with their own police. Also worth noting that they adopted sanctuary status in 1989 which preceded their massive rise in prosperity. It seems unlikely to be a factor in problems of the last 5 years.
News article: https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/19/san-francisco-not-coopera... The city has a "rapid response" hotline you can call if you see any ICE agents in the city. I'm not sure what their response is. But they definitely don't work with the agency
I'm assuming you know that site was founded by Tucker Carlson? He might have an interest in making "liberal" cities and populations look as bad and scary as possible, even if it means writing outright lies. You should try to find a more reputable source.
Re: 70% of San Francisco residents say quality of life has declined: poll
#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
News article: https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/19/san-francisco-not-coopera... The city has a "rapid response" hotline you can call if you see any ICE agents in the city. I'm not sure what their response is. But they definitely don't work with the agency
I'm assuming you know that site was founded by Tucker Carlson? He might have an interest in making "liberal" cities and populations look as bad and scary as possible, even if it means writing outright lies. You should try to find a more reputable source.
Most mainstream news sites have a very clear agenda of making liberal policies and politicians looking better than they actually are. The quality of news media (on both sides of the aisle) has declined drastically in the past several years, and the number of actually center sources has dropped to near zero.
If you can refute the contents of the article with something more tangible than disliking the founder, I'll give it a fair read. I think if this were outright lies, there would be some pushback from the city. You're making big claims here.
Re: 70% of San Francisco residents say quality of life has declined: poll
#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
The small towns literally bus or have the police drop off homeless into big cities so they don't have to pay for it. In Santa Cruz, there are tonnes of homeless. 10 miles away in Scotts Valley there are no visible homeless, that's because Scotts valley PD picks up homeless and drops them off in Santa Cruz.
and of course conservatives ignore this entirely and blame these cities for creating homeless problems… quite a scheme
This is a tech city, start fingerprinting and ID'ing where their real residential address is and send them back after a nice shower and a good hearty meal. If the same people keep coming back, start filing lawsuits against the towns or send them a bill. As soon as this happens the Republican lawmakers will start to pass laws banning this. Assert states right and start pressuring local companies to stop doing business in those states or else face consequences. It would take a leftist with real guts to do stuff like this.
I also wonder if it is legal to put checkpoints in the entrance to states so that if a bus arrives, they need to be subject to inspections. This stuff sounds cruel but the cities are not fighting for their tax paying residents. Its unbelievable how much of a scam this country is in favor of typically rural white people.
1) Red states typically get out more than 1$ of every tax dollar they put back in.
Source: https://apnews.com/article/north-america-business-local-taxe...
2) Red states get an additional subsidy in the form of sending their homeless to the blue cities. This allows them to reduce their tax burden while increasing the tax burden of an already highly taxed blue electorate. The decreased tax burden directly translates into more renovations to the towns and better quality of life for their citizens(ie more services) while directly reducing the quality of life for the left leaning counties.
3) Red states are overrepresented due to gerrymandering, the electoral college, (and because the Dems never fight), now the supreme court so the mechanisms to change this system are all blocked for the left wing population.
We don't have a Democratic party that fights for us. I'm convinced that they are actually on the same side as the Right but only pretend to actually care about the people in the left states and stop all opposition using cancel culture.
They of course cater to their wealthy constituents but everyone else that makes up the Democratic party: minorities and the poor are in this hellish limbo where they have no real say in governance yet at the same time are paying and suffering the consequences. Its the modern day slavery.
We are starting to see minorities run for congress and challenge the status quo. We also see them get co-opted by the Democratic party and muted or aggressively fought against so that they have to work 10 times as hard to get a chance
(ie. AOC's initial opponent outspent her 10 to 1, endorsed by the entire party, baseless accusations of being associated with less that favorable figures)
(ex2. Ilhan Omar being blasted whenever she opens her mouth).
It sounds like it's going to take a whole generation of effort to finally break this cursed situation that so many people in this country are born into.
Sorry for the rant, its just that as a minority living in a left state, it grinds me endlessly that I am paying for these Red state jerks while my quality of life continues on a downward trajectory and at the same time no one will fight for me. Not AOC, not anyone in the Dems for sure. What is the way out?
Re: 70% of San Francisco residents say quality of life has declined: poll
#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
> People from other countries do not get welfare in the USA. that is a myth. Why do you say it is a myth? "63% of Non-Citizen Households Access Welfare Programs Compared to 35% of native households" https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfa...
From Wikipedia: "The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an anti-immigration think tank. It favors far lower immigration numbers, and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham and eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton." [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Immigration_Studies Do you have another source? I am not so convinced by this source.
There is a section on the methods used, along with naming the dataset, the SIPP.
There is a link to the SIPP in the endnotes of the page. The SIPP is from the Census Bureau.
Re: 70% of San Francisco residents say quality of life has declined: poll
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
I personally would be terrified to stop a thief in CA, because I suspect that the way CA laws are written, I would be crucified in court for daring to defend property, and most likely I would end up with an assault conviction or something. I'd be hesitant to take that risk even for my own property.
I would be terrified to stop a thief anywhere in the US, because I assume that they have a gun and will just shoot me. I don't own stuff that is worth the risk.
This will be unpopular, but have you ever heard the phrase "an armed society is a polite society"? Just as you're afraid to stop someone committing a crime because they might be armed (wait, I thought there were strict gun control laws, how can they be armed?! You mean criminals don't obey laws?! /s), an attacker will be hesitant to assault you if they think you are armed.
Re: 70% of San Francisco residents say quality of life has declined: poll
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
What don’t you get? Policy makers are out over their skis believing in a utopia that runs contrary to human nature and economics. They can’t admit the physics of the problem so just keep insisting they haven’t gone far enough . Graft creeps in as it always does, corrupting the machinery that (even generously) may have originally been born with the best of intentions. Everyone is afraid of being labeled as intolerant…
> to say this isn’t working and needs radical correction to enforce some social norms and define acceptable behavior under penalty of imprisonment, labor, or some undesirable consequence for the offender We should really be focusing on the underlying mental health issues rather than resorting to a base desire to crack skulls. One such example is opening up (humane) mental health institutions. For people who are out o…
Cracking skulls is actually the more humane solution. If a city makes harsh examples of a few criminals, it dissuades many more potential criminals from ever getting started.
Allowing criminals and homeless to run rampant will lead to the rapid increases in both we have seen in SF. Then there still will be an inevitable backlash, and that will involve the cracking of far more skulls than would have happened by doing it early. If a city never enforces its laws, the criminals will crack far more innocent skulls.
You can't escape the cracking of skulls, you just choose who does the cracking and how many get hurt.