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Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by EE84M3i »

gfaure wrote: post #99
brandur wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally irrelevant, but a related fact in this vein: I recently learned "尻" via WaniKani (a popular SRS system to help learn kanji), and the mnemonic they used to help you remember the reading of this kanji/vocabulary (お尻) is now inspired on Apple's Siri: https://www.wanikani.com/kanji/%E5%B0%BB > Now that you have nine flags inside your butt, you have to get them out. But, you don't know how to. So you ask Siri (しり…

No: 尸, the radical of 尻 doesn't mean "flag" -- it means "corpse". Notice that many of the characters with the 尸 radical refer to defilement, excrement or death.

Wanikani's "radical" names often don't map directly to the actual meaning. They are just used for mnemonics. This happens most when the "radical" isn't a common/official character in Japanese on it's own right, like 尸.

I don't entirely agree with that system, so I often look up the individual radical meanings anyway and add a synonym, but that's Wanikani's method.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by enraged_camel »

alexjplant wrote: post #97
quicklime wrote: post #96

> Ohnishi started Jobs off with flounder sushi, then squid and shrimp...he served toro, the fatty part of tuna Was Steve Jobs not a vegetarian?

Pescetarian, last time I checked Wikipedia. A Ctrl+F no longer yields this info, however, so I might be misremembering.

He kept switching between all-fruit, vegan and pescetarian diets. His autobiography goes into it quite a bit.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by Clewza313 »

Cmortoc wrote: post #51
deregulateMed wrote: post #49

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Ahh the worse diet for the environment. Seems fitting for Jobs.

That seems counter to my understanding of diets. Do you have any sources about this? I'd like to learn if I've been making misinformed decisions.

Many fish used for sushi, notably bluefin tuna (source of the ootoro tuna belly Jobs apparently loved), are not considered sustainable.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by euske »

neom wrote: post #3

The Ryokan that they mention he always stayed at is apparently very good: https://www.annees-de-pelerinage.com/tawaraya-ryokan-review-... "Concierge service at the breakfast table is good, but the story goes on. On my way out one of the porters silently approached me and said: “Schwarze-sama, we checked the weather forecast and there will be rain this evening. So here is an umbrella to take along. Also, we took the l…

Actually this is kinda standard in Japanese ryokans. Many places offer umbrella/rain boots for rent, and hotel staffs marking pathways on their giveaway map is common. Now, it's possible that they might have went an extra mile for a clueless (as they thought) foreigner, but I find this kind of thing a little too nosy. This probably explains why many Japanese people prefer a more businesslike Western hotel today, and ryokans are more or less for foreign tourists.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by Clewza313 »

fsckboy wrote: post #28
fermentation wrote: post #6

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I didn't realize that this was actually real. I love fruit but I feel like all of the sugar would hurt me if it were the only thing that I ate.

there are "ethical" fruititarians, because fruits are gifts the plants offer up, but consuming a vegetable is eating the plant itself.

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_vegetarianism

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by sithadmin »

euske wrote: post #104
neom wrote: post #3

The Ryokan that they mention he always stayed at is apparently very good: https://www.annees-de-pelerinage.com/tawaraya-ryokan-review-... "Concierge service at the breakfast table is good, but the story goes on. On my way out one of the porters silently approached me and said: “Schwarze-sama, we checked the weather forecast and there will be rain this evening. So here is an umbrella to take along. Also, we took the l…

Actually this is kinda standard in Japanese ryokans. Many places offer umbrella/rain boots for rent, and hotel staffs marking pathways on their giveaway map is common. Now, it's possible that they might have went an extra mile for a clueless (as they thought) foreigner, but I find this kind of thing a little too nosy. This probably explains why many Japanese people prefer a more businesslike Western hotel today, and…

Ryokan are certainly not just for 'foreign tourists' - many have a very limited interest in serving international customers and do not making booking or staying there easy for non-Japanese speakers. They're mostly dedicated to serving Japanese nationals seeking a relaxing domestic trip for a special occasion.

That said, the Japanese 'business hotel' is really a thing of beauty. They have everything a traveller truly needs, and nothing they don't. Half the time, you don't even need to speak to a human being to do predictable traveller things like check in, check out, or order breakfast. Even the most dirt cheap business hotel in Japan seems to have a shockingly large (by western standards) set of in-room amenities, and though almost trashy, the fact that you can self-serve a beer/highball/sake from the vending machine placed on every other floor for a mere ~120 yen is a nice departure from the egregiously overpriced hotel bar drinks you will find in western-style hotel bars.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by flycaliguy »

timr wrote: post #25
neom wrote: post #3

The Ryokan that they mention he always stayed at is apparently very good: https://www.annees-de-pelerinage.com/tawaraya-ryokan-review-... "Concierge service at the breakfast table is good, but the story goes on. On my way out one of the porters silently approached me and said: “Schwarze-sama, we checked the weather forecast and there will be rain this evening. So here is an umbrella to take along. Also, we took the l…

That article is a bit silly. While I'm sure it's nice, this is not one of the high-end ryokans in Kyoto, and by no means is it "the best hotel in Japan" (I lived in Kyoto, and have been there many times). Reading the reviews, it mainly sounds small and difficult to book, and it has a cult reputation. I was actually a little surprised Jobs stayed there, given that there are really high-end places where dignitaries and…

I’m sure Steve Jobs stayed at the highest end spots elsewhere on the planet. It mentions in the article that this place is right near his favourite soba.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by bradlys »

zepto wrote: post #89
bradlys wrote: post #76

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Who says you have to be belittled and yelled at to know where you stand and what you could do to perform better?

Nobody is saying that, the point is that what Jobs did is no worse than the everyday corporate passive aggressive manipulative stuff that nobody bothers to comment on.

Eh, I disagree. It's not like the anger didn't come with firings. In terms of things I'd like to get - I'd prefer someone doesn't yell and belittle me. If they want to do some corporate jargon speak to say, "you're gonna be fired in 4 weeks and this PIP is really just a formality" then I prefer that over yelling and belittling and then the firing happens anyway.

It's a false dichotomy anyway. Steve could've been a nice person but instead he was an asshole. You're just letting him get away with it because someone else does bad things too. It's like comparing different forms of beheading - end of the day someones head comes off and I'm just saying... it's ALSO an option to not.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by quesera »

enraged_camel wrote: post #102
alexjplant wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pescetarian, last time I checked Wikipedia. A Ctrl+F no longer yields this info, however, so I might be misremembering.

He kept switching between all-fruit, vegan and pescetarian diets. His autobiography goes into it quite a bit.

> His autobiography

s/auto// very unfortunately!

Isaacson may have done the best job possible under the circumstances (authorized and rushed to publication), but I was disappointed.

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