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Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by mlyle »

sixQuarks wrote: post #46
rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to his biography, he did initially try to cure his cancer by going fruitarian. Obviously, the cancer got worse instead of better, and he ended up needing a transplant. I suspect (and I have nothing to go off of other than his biography) that he didn't actually completely expect the fruit diet to work, and may have simply believed that if it was his time to go, it was his time to go, but his wife may have ev…

Steve Jobs died from pancreatic cancer. He received a liver transplant, which is not related to that cancer.

Other than the reason he needed a liver transplant was because of evidence that the cancer had spread to his liver but not elsewhere...

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by ekianjo »

DenisM wrote: post #27

If you’re ever in Kyoto set aside a whole day for the train museum. It’s absolutely through the roof train paradise.

Excellent museum indeed. The kids love it too. And there's so much to see you can go several times to cover everything.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by ekianjo »

soperj wrote: post #54
johnwheeler wrote: post #48

It always frustrates me when techies have an irreverence for Steve Jobs, or let his brashness overshadow the value he bestowed upon the world. Jobs was once asked what distinguishes the ordinary from the great, and he said it boils down to "taste". he also described his job as being "an editor". instead of adding more and more, he decided what to sacrifice and what to focus on making great. that's a rare quality, esp…

He set back wages for techies for years, and was a prick to his family & friends (disavowing his daughter, screwing Woz out of money). I don't care if he was the brightest guy on earth, or what "value" he bestowed on the world. He wasn't a good human being. Same goes for Gates.

I have never liked Jobs (or even Apple) - even more so after the cult following his death - but nevertheless I would not pretend to know him and to be able to pass a final judgment on him as a human being. Maybe he was an asshole? Maybe he treated people badly? Yet people still worked for him and respected him nonetheless. And if we ever were in his position, would we be worse or better? It's not something we can easily know or guess.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by audiometry »

johnwheeler wrote: post #69
bcantrill wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Appreciate your frustration, but you should appreciate something else in turn: Steve Jobs was an asshole to many, many people for many, many years -- and "Steve stories" abound among the veterans in our industry. Speaking personally, my own introduction to Jobs was being at a friend's house as a kid, and overhearing her father being absolutely screamed at by someone on a speaker phone in his office. I looked at her,…

I know I’ll get downvoted, but who cares. I know that’s callous but people have too much an aversion of getting yelled at by their bosses nowadays. That’s ego and vanity.

The asshole yelling is the one with the ego and vanity problem.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by brandur »

glandium wrote: post #52
pazimzadeh wrote: post #9

> Oshima says he would even jokingly ask Jobs to name one of Apple's products 'Hiro.' That's not a bad alternative to 'Siri'

Fun fact: In Japanese there is no "Si" sound and the closest is "Shi", so "Siri" is pronounced "Shiri". You know what else is pronounced "Shiri" in Japanese? Buttocks (尻).

Totally irrelevant, but a related fact in this vein: I recently learned "尻" via WaniKani (a popular SRS system to help learn kanji), and the mnemonic they used to help you remember the reading of this kanji/vocabulary (お尻) is now inspired on Apple's Siri:

https://www.wanikani.com/kanji/%E5%B0%BB

> Now that you have nine flags inside your butt, you have to get them out. But, you don't know how to. So you ask Siri (しり — shi-ri), "how do I get nine flags out of my butt?"

(Note: The kanji is composed of the radicals "nine" and "flag", which is how they get to "nine flags".)

(Note: WaniKani's mnemonics are very often somewhat non-sensical slightly entertaining stories in the same style as this one. Very normal.)

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by alexjplant »

quicklime wrote: post #96

> Ohnishi started Jobs off with flounder sushi, then squid and shrimp...he served toro, the fatty part of tuna Was Steve Jobs not a vegetarian?

Pescetarian, last time I checked Wikipedia. A Ctrl+F no longer yields this info, however, so I might be misremembering.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by gfaure »

brandur wrote: post #95
glandium wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: In Japanese there is no "Si" sound and the closest is "Shi", so "Siri" is pronounced "Shiri". You know what else is pronounced "Shiri" in Japanese? Buttocks (尻).

Totally irrelevant, but a related fact in this vein: I recently learned "尻" via WaniKani (a popular SRS system to help learn kanji), and the mnemonic they used to help you remember the reading of this kanji/vocabulary (お尻) is now inspired on Apple's Siri: https://www.wanikani.com/kanji/%E5%B0%BB > Now that you have nine flags inside your butt, you have to get them out. But, you don't know how to. So you ask Siri (しり…

No: 尸, the radical of 尻 doesn't mean "flag" -- it means "corpse". Notice that many of the characters with the 尸 radical refer to defilement, excrement or death.

Re: Steve Jobs in Kyoto

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Post by rkk3 »

ec109685 wrote: post #35

Too bad he couldn’t have gotten his tour guide and friend in too: > When they returned, an interpreter was waiting for Jobs. Oshima waited outside in the car. > "When he came back out an hour later, he told me: 'I would like to have a garden like that.'"

Too bad he couldn't or too bad he didn't...
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