Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

Post by anfilt » Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 10:33 PM UTC

noodlenotes wrote: post #157

esquivalience wrote: post #4

From the source: "The high rate of magnesium deficiency now postulated [5,6,7,8] can be attributed in part to a steady decline in general magnesium content in cultivated fruits and vegetables, a reflection of the observed depletion of magnesium in soil over the past 100 years [11,12,13]. A report to Congress was already sounding the alarm as far back as the 1930s, pointing out the paucity of magnesium, and other mine…

I wonder if there's a relationship to the obesity epidemic, especially since it's not just humans that are getting larger but also lab animals, pets, and wild animals living close to humans [1]. What if we're compelled to eat more calories when we're not getting enough nutrients in our diets? This would impact any animals consuming lower quality fruits and vegetables. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2010.628

Post by LAC-Tech » Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 10:34 PM UTC

_tom_ wrote: post #96

Waterluvian wrote: post #64

I’m not arguing against these findings but the whole subject of nutrition leaves me frustrated at times. Ever tried to have 100% daily recommended intake of every nutrient? I suspect almost nobody achieves that. And yet, despite this, and magnesium issues among likely many other issues, our species has never lived longer, grown taller, survived infancy, etc. more than we have now. That being said, as we understand an…

That was 20 years ago. Life spans are falling, as is height.

Post by dragonwriter » Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 10:36 PM UTC

spfzero wrote: post #207

changoplatanero wrote: post #178

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When my grandparents told me that chicken tastes less good nowadays I thought they were just old and had lost their sense of taste. Actually they were right though.

People I know who grew up in Asia remark consistently that the chicken here in the US is larger, softer, and tasteless. They are used to smaller chickens and toothier meat with a stronger taste. It is probably breeding practices here, to promote attributes other than taste.

Post by stavros » Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 10:41 PM UTC

C-x_C-f wrote: post #203

stavros wrote: post #179

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Everything tastes less good nowadays. When I was a kid, we used to eat tomatoes like apples, just biting into them, maybe with some salt. Nowadays supermarket tomatoes taste like water.

Anecdotally (though studies like [1] seem to confirm this), I've found that tomatoes are quite sensitive to transportation and storage. To me, garden tomatoes taste fantastic; the ones at the local farmers' market taste pretty good too; supermarket tomatoes are only good for making tomato sauce. I wonder whether the tomatoes you ate as a kid had been transported over long distances. Also anecdotally, I haven't found…

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 10:44 PM UTC

anfilt wrote: post #211

noodlenotes wrote: post #157

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I wonder if there's a relationship to the obesity epidemic, especially since it's not just humans that are getting larger but also lab animals, pets, and wild animals living close to humans [1]. What if we're compelled to eat more calories when we're not getting enough nutrients in our diets? This would impact any animals consuming lower quality fruits and vegetables. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2010.628

Like that could be contributor, but also don't forget how many calories some refined and processed foods can have also while either being sweet or fatty/savory. Does sound like interesting hypothesis though.