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Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by vzidex »

Spooky23 wrote: post #81
celticninja wrote: post #15

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Isn't that a bit like survivor bias though? People who are on meatrx (not familiar with the site at all) are already predisposed to thinking that this is the best thing to do, so all the positive things that occur they are attributing to their meat diet. What about the people that didn't get pregnant or who didn't regain their hair? I assume they are not posting about this outcome. I think some sort of peer reviewed…

Who would fund such a study? There’s no money in it. Food politics is awful and leads people to make terrible decisions. People develop health problems due to pursuing plant only diets (stuff like vitamin B deficiency, anemia, etc). Many overall health issues can be helped by teaching people to eat smaller, balanced meals and less focus on extreme diets.

1-year vegan here, no new health issues to report. I supplement vitamins D and B12 and omega-3 fats.

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Post by 988747 »

rtkwe wrote: post #105
seaorg wrote: post #44

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It’s not wrong at all. The amount of edible carbohydrates we ate then was basically nothing compared to the astounding amount of carbohydrates we eat now. We eat almost nothing else. Our bodies aren’t meant to be flooded with carbohydrates all the time, and chronic disease and diabetes is the result. Our ancestors didn’t have diabetes and it’s becoming clear that exercise doesn’t fill the gap. There is no diet plan.…

> humans ate ruminant animals who’s herds they followed around, and almost nothing else. This is the incorrect part. Meat was never the sole part of human or any human ancestors diet, for starters we don't have the teeth for it. The rest of the diet may have been lower carb than what we eat now but it was not meat only.

Some scientists seem to disagree [1] They theory is basically that for the first few millions years of evolution we were eating mostly meat, and switched to more plant-based diet when we ran out of big animals to hunt, which was quite recently.

[1] https://www.livescience.com/humans-were-super-predators.html

Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by klyrs »

seaorg wrote: post #7

If you put a whole cow into a meat grinder, the resulting paste contains every single micro and macro nutrient required by the human body, in their most bioavailable forms, many of which are completely absent in vegetarian and vegan diets. For millions of years, humans ate ruminant animals who’s herds they followed around, and almost nothing else. People who eat nothing but ruminant meat and organs become slim even i…

> Two doctors have now ate nothing but meat, animal fat and organs for two years and posted their test results

I see your n=2 "study" and raise the risk of colorectal cancer; an n=900 study with plausible causative link.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27655186

Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by rpmisms »

Mirioron wrote: post #38

Should vitamin and mineral levels be checked during yearly checkups as standard practice? It seems like it would give us a lot of useful data and help people live healthier lives.

I know Weston A. Price is a bit of a controversial topic, but his work does show the demineralization of the western world quite effectively. I think supplementation alone is simply a patch on the larger issue, which is the degradation of our land and farming practices.

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Post by noodlenotes »

esquivalience wrote: post #4

From the source: "The high rate of magnesium deficiency now postulated [5,6,7,8] can be attributed in part to a steady decline in general magnesium content in cultivated fruits and vegetables, a reflection of the observed depletion of magnesium in soil over the past 100 years [11,12,13]. A report to Congress was already sounding the alarm as far back as the 1930s, pointing out the paucity of magnesium, and other mine…

I wonder if there's a relationship to the obesity epidemic, especially since it's not just humans that are getting larger but also lab animals, pets, and wild animals living close to humans [1]. What if we're compelled to eat more calories when we're not getting enough nutrients in our diets? This would impact any animals consuming lower quality fruits and vegetables.

[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2010.628

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Post by rpmisms »

seaorg wrote: post #125
rtkwe wrote: post #105

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> humans ate ruminant animals who’s herds they followed around, and almost nothing else. This is the incorrect part. Meat was never the sole part of human or any human ancestors diet, for starters we don't have the teeth for it. The rest of the diet may have been lower carb than what we eat now but it was not meat only.

Fair enough. We strip fat out of everything now. Fat free this and fat free that. Red meat is demonized.it’s a part of our evolutionarily consistent diet…

Fat is really good for you, as long as it's fat you can find in nature. For example, the fat below the skin on a cut of salmon. Utterly delicious, super healthy, and will make your brain work better.

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Post by icedistilled »

Xcelerate wrote: post #91

When we moved to the Bay Area, I started going to the farmers markets and was blown away by the quality of the vegetables. Peas grown at Iacopi Farms in Half Moon Bay were crisp and sweet. Zuckerman's Farm grew a special kind of squash bred specifically for flavor (honeynut squash). Fresh plums pulled off of trees in San Francisco were just bursting with juice. Mashed potatoes made from La Ratte potatoes. And Delta a…

More people should grow some food in their yard. There's quite a few benefits to it in addition to getting a small amount of produce like better understanding of natural cycles and more of a connection to the environment that sustains us.

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Post by mathgladiator »

mponw wrote: post #75
seaorg wrote: post #37

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I don’t see a flag… people flag my comments because they are offended by eating meat. It’s fucking unbelievable. Especially if I’m right and it’s an important medical advancement. Yes, grass fed is necessary because of the omega 3 to 6 ratio. This is even more important if you are targeting autoimmune. And don’t sleep on the organs, I have found that those are important to immune-tangential things as well. Another no…

Grass fed is not necessary. Please check out "Sacred Cow" ( https://www.sacredcow.info/book ) for the latest research. I (and many others) agree with your recommendation on sodium.

Can you give a quick summary of why grass fed is not necessary. I can imagine a spectrum from grass fed pasture all the way to specialized diets with hay and grain, but this feels like an in-between to all corn fed beef.
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