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Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by wincy »

lr4444lr wrote: post #78
wincy wrote: post #26

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Interesting. I recently started using Magnesium Glycinate as a supplement and I feel it truly changed my life, not exaggerating. I’ve suffered from chronic general anxiety for most of my teens and adult life. Magnesium has completely cleared this up, things I thought were just part of my personality (being anxious and other associated things) were actually due to a chronic magnesium deficiency. I just have to make su…

Did the glycinate formulation have a markedly better effect than more common alternatives?

Not really sure, I heard that magnesium citrate can have laxative effects. I used to use cal-mag which helped anxiety but it never really “clicked” in my head that it was helping, I used it for muscle cramps.

Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by ullevaal »

DistressedDrone wrote: post #31
xyzzyz wrote: post #22

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Can it be solved by simply adding more magnesium to the fertilizer?

I suspect it can be solved in many different ways, but when you sell food by the pound, it's much more advantageous to distribute your limited quantity of nutrients in as much produce as possible. This seems really, really hard to regulate.

When reading comments like this, which are good-natured, and a natural response, do you ever think “wouldn’t be great if we as humans had more trust built into our systems, and people actually making a best-effort attempt at honouring that trust”? Instead of everything being a scam until proven otherwise, and even then the scam is probably just one level deeper in what triggered the interest in that product in the first place.

Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by ferdowsi »

Xcelerate wrote: post #91

When we moved to the Bay Area, I started going to the farmers markets and was blown away by the quality of the vegetables. Peas grown at Iacopi Farms in Half Moon Bay were crisp and sweet. Zuckerman's Farm grew a special kind of squash bred specifically for flavor (honeynut squash). Fresh plums pulled off of trees in San Francisco were just bursting with juice. Mashed potatoes made from La Ratte potatoes. And Delta a…

You were previously buying family-farm vegetables and switched to industrialized, grocery store produce. You can definitely walk into a Safeway in SF and get garbage produce.

Hopefully your local ecosystem supports some native farming that you can make use of.

Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by bumby »

jeffreyrogers wrote: post #34
version_five wrote: post #27

I understand this seems mostly to be about soil depletion. I'm curious more generally if vegetables are also less nutritious because they are selectively bread for high water content and size. For example, its appeared to me for years that you vegetables you get on a Subway sandwich must have almost no nutritional content. They are all way paler than you'd normally see, and super watery. Thinking about it, I suppose…

Home grown tomatoes are typically much better tasting/more flavorful than the store bought ones, so I think there is probably something to this.

It seems we selected for one trait and influenced another. In the case of tomatoes, we selected for uniform ripening because of the aesthetic appeal and it also caused unwittingly selecting fruit with lower sugar content[1]. I’ve also heard similar regarding selecting fruit that is hardy enough to survive transport without damage but the same genes make the fruit taste like cardboard.

[1] https://stanfordmag.org/contents/the-trouble-with-tomatoes

Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by rtkwe »

seaorg wrote: post #44
objclxt wrote: post #30

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> For millions of years, humans ate ruminant animals who’s herds they followed around, and almost nothing else. This is just wrong. Nearly all archeological evidence suggests humans were hunter-gatherers. They hunted (meat) and they gathered (fruit, vegetables, nuts, etc). Hunter gathering represents about 90% of human history prior to the invention of agriculture. > And couples who do it get pregnant immediately aft…

It’s not wrong at all. The amount of edible carbohydrates we ate then was basically nothing compared to the astounding amount of carbohydrates we eat now. We eat almost nothing else. Our bodies aren’t meant to be flooded with carbohydrates all the time, and chronic disease and diabetes is the result. Our ancestors didn’t have diabetes and it’s becoming clear that exercise doesn’t fill the gap. There is no diet plan.…

> humans ate ruminant animals who’s herds they followed around, and almost nothing else.

This is the incorrect part. Meat was never the sole part of human or any human ancestors diet, for starters we don't have the teeth for it. The rest of the diet may have been lower carb than what we eat now but it was not meat only.

Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by wincy »

TrevorFancher wrote: post #46
wincy wrote: post #26

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Interesting. I recently started using Magnesium Glycinate as a supplement and I feel it truly changed my life, not exaggerating. I’ve suffered from chronic general anxiety for most of my teens and adult life. Magnesium has completely cleared this up, things I thought were just part of my personality (being anxious and other associated things) were actually due to a chronic magnesium deficiency. I just have to make su…

How much and which brand do you take?

I use this[0] not every day because I’ll get muscle spasms unless I eat a lot of calcium, but a few times a week seems to make a big difference.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZD7R4RF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_...

Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by inglor_cz »

jacobkg wrote: post #73

One thing I have noticed over the years is that I am addicted to the taste of Costco’s Kirkland signature bottled water (similar to Dasani but nothing like bottled “spring water”) One hypothesis I have is that my body is craving magnesium, which is one of the “minerals added for taste”.

I had a similar craving for Magnesia, a Czech mineral water high in magnesium.

Once I started supplementing magnesium by other means, I can go without Magnesia for weeks.

Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by dr_dshiv »

esquivalience wrote: post #4

From the source: "The high rate of magnesium deficiency now postulated [5,6,7,8] can be attributed in part to a steady decline in general magnesium content in cultivated fruits and vegetables, a reflection of the observed depletion of magnesium in soil over the past 100 years [11,12,13]. A report to Congress was already sounding the alarm as far back as the 1930s, pointing out the paucity of magnesium, and other mine…

I love magnesium pills! I take two in the morning. It relieves brain fog, reduces lower back pain and makes you shit. (Those three are totally related, btw)

Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by jbotz »

rini17 wrote: post #71
version_five wrote: post #27

I understand this seems mostly to be about soil depletion. I'm curious more generally if vegetables are also less nutritious because they are selectively bread for high water content and size. For example, its appeared to me for years that you vegetables you get on a Subway sandwich must have almost no nutritional content. They are all way paler than you'd normally see, and super watery. Thinking about it, I suppose…

Depends on your definition of "poor soil". It may actually be due to too good soil, the plants grow too fast and the micronutrients get diluted.

That's not what happens with actual good soil. It is what happens with high doses of nitrogen fertilizer (or NPK) on poor soil.

Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status

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Post by robotresearcher »

seaorg wrote: post #44
objclxt wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For millions of years, humans ate ruminant animals who’s herds they followed around, and almost nothing else. This is just wrong. Nearly all archeological evidence suggests humans were hunter-gatherers. They hunted (meat) and they gathered (fruit, vegetables, nuts, etc). Hunter gathering represents about 90% of human history prior to the invention of agriculture. > And couples who do it get pregnant immediately aft…

It’s not wrong at all. The amount of edible carbohydrates we ate then was basically nothing compared to the astounding amount of carbohydrates we eat now. We eat almost nothing else. Our bodies aren’t meant to be flooded with carbohydrates all the time, and chronic disease and diabetes is the result. Our ancestors didn’t have diabetes and it’s becoming clear that exercise doesn’t fill the gap. There is no diet plan.…

> I have never fallen for a scam in my entire life

Your username...

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