The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

Post by Bayart » Sat, Jun 26, 2021, 9:49 PM UTC

slipframe wrote: post #42

DoctorNick wrote: post #28

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Americans are more prone to this kind of thing because they're already used to overriding settler-colonial propaganda influencing their mindset; Zionist propaganda is just another flavor.

Lots of countries have similar sorts of histories I think; while I'm sure what you say is part of the equation, I think it doesn't fully explain why Americans are much more likely to support Israel than people in other countries (for instance, Australia.) I think another piece of this puzzle is the popularity of Evangelical Christianity in America, particularly Christian Zionism and the belief that the state of Israe…

Post by ljasdas » Sat, Jun 26, 2021, 9:50 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #24

ljasdas wrote: post #14

Not sure why HN moderation changed the original title, which was "I am Palestinian. Here’s how Israel silences us on social media." to its current form.

I changed it the same way we change every such title which relies on linkbait tropes (which is what "I am $X. Here's how $Y" is). Linkbait tropes make HN threads worse. Editing them is standard moderation practice ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... ), and is also in the site guidelines (" Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " - https:/…

Post by dang » Sat, Jun 26, 2021, 9:51 PM UTC

jedimind wrote: post #61

rayiner wrote: post #43

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As an American who moved here from a Muslim country let me assure you Muslims are socialized to feel the same way about Jews. Took me a long time to see it. In high school I obviously supported Palestine and thought Israel was a settler colony (all of it, not just Gaza). Then I realized: wait why do I even care? I’m from 3,000 miles away in Bangladesh. In Bangladesh, people don’t even care about Bangladeshis being he…

So you stop caring about something as soon as a specific number of other people don't care? "Yeah I used to care about homeless people, but then one day I was like 'wait why do I even care', `nobody` in LA seems to care" If you truly care about something, you care because of your values and you care regardless of what others say or do.

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jun 26, 2021, 9:53 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #56

hoka-one-one wrote: post #53

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Jews are not white so by definition they can't be racist. Racism has to do with systemic power structures. Most of the problems in the middle east have been caused by white colonialism. What's going on between Jews and Palestinians is warfare that sometimes gets out of hand. That's distinct from racism.

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Post by tartoran » Sat, Jun 26, 2021, 9:53 PM UTC

luffapi wrote: post #57

rayiner wrote: post #43

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As an American who moved here from a Muslim country let me assure you Muslims are socialized to feel the same way about Jews. Took me a long time to see it. In high school I obviously supported Palestine and thought Israel was a settler colony (all of it, not just Gaza). Then I realized: wait why do I even care? I’m from 3,000 miles away in Bangladesh. In Bangladesh, people don’t even care about Bangladeshis being he…

I’d urge people not to give up caring. There’s a lot of crappy things happening in the world and it can be a lot to deal with, but just tossing your hands up isn’t the answer. I’d also argue that tax paying Americans are obligated to care. Our money is funding Israel’s crimes and we are morally culpable if we don’t resist or try to change policy.