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Qt is about as ideal as you can get for cross platform apps. Unfortunately the licensing is an impediment for a lot of usecases.
So, Microsoft should buy Qt then.
Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Electron for Edge Webview2
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Re: Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Electron for Edge Webview2
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Native apps means essentially building at least 5 distinct apps: windows, mac, iOS, linux, android. What a mess to work with and maintain. We already have cross-platfrom UI engines called browsers and they're very advanced and reasonably pleasant to work with these days. If you bundle the browser (electron) then you don't have to worry about differences between browsers. So electron makes plenty of sense to developer…
If only Microsoft had a app development framework designed to allow developing apps for multiple mobile + desktop platforms with as much shared code as possible. https://dotnet.microsoft.com/apps/xamarin
Re: Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Electron for Edge Webview2
#93Not really relevant but I need to vent. Client dropped Slack for Teams. I hate it, and information exchange has dropped precipitously since everyone switched. So slow, half the time text markup doesn't work, and the UI is inconsistent depending on if you're typing in a chat, meeting, or channel. Oh and none of the Slack logs were kept, losing years of information. (But that's not the fault of the Teams software) I lo…
While Slack displays all your organizations in a single tabbed UI, presenting you with the number of unread messages on the tab icons in Teams you need to hard switch and you never know what happens in the others. This makes Teams worse than nothing in communications because one half of the communication expects you to communicate and you are not even aware of this. You literally must jump organizations constantly ,…
Also opening docs and excel sheets inside the main window by default and blocking chat while doing it is absolutely atrocious.
Re: Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Electron for Edge Webview2
#94Not really relevant but I need to vent. Client dropped Slack for Teams. I hate it, and information exchange has dropped precipitously since everyone switched. So slow, half the time text markup doesn't work, and the UI is inconsistent depending on if you're typing in a chat, meeting, or channel. Oh and none of the Slack logs were kept, losing years of information. (But that's not the fault of the Teams software) I lo…
My team started off piloting a self hosted Mattermost instance used by our developers and quality assurance testers. Tons of information exchange as well a team bonding. Then they rolled out Teams for the whole company. We lost a ton of features that made Mattermost a delight to use. The way channels worked felt less intuitive, and it was just harder to care about group messages. And the worst part? A 30 day deletion…
Re: Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Electron for Edge Webview2
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> What's the underlying goal you want to achieve Performance, small bundle sizes and native UI widgets. And judging by all of the Electron apps failing in these departments, I guess you really do need native apps.
> small bundle sizes Space are not precious anymore. Nor is bandwidth.
Re: Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Electron for Edge Webview2
#96Given the love for VSCode, is Electron a real problem for Teams?
No. There is no reason for Teams to be the dog that it is other than it being terribly written.
Teams tries to do a lot of functions. Maybe too much?
Re: Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Electron for Edge Webview2
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Native apps means essentially building at least 5 distinct apps: windows, mac, iOS, linux, android. What a mess to work with and maintain. We already have cross-platfrom UI engines called browsers and they're very advanced and reasonably pleasant to work with these days. If you bundle the browser (electron) then you don't have to worry about differences between browsers. So electron makes plenty of sense to developer…
I see where you're coming from, but Microsoft already builds an entire office sweet as native apps across 4 of the 5 platforms you enumerated.
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I have to use the Mac plain paste shortcut all the time: shift+option+command+v (Ctrl+shift+v in windows, not sure about Linux) Definitely a helpful shortcut!
I wish "paste without formatting" was the default, and you had to use the contortionist keyboard shortcut to include formatting.
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/copy-paste-text-without-format...
Re: Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Electron for Edge Webview2
#99Drop Electron.... for Edge Webview2. I mean, okay sure, half the memory is an improvement. But what is going on in the chat industry that everyone's converged on Electron? You'd think Microsoft of all companies would be able to figure out how to build native apps. If I want a chat service with native apps, it seems like my only option is IRC.
Native apps means essentially building at least 5 distinct apps: windows, mac, iOS, linux, android. What a mess to work with and maintain. We already have cross-platfrom UI engines called browsers and they're very advanced and reasonably pleasant to work with these days. If you bundle the browser (electron) then you don't have to worry about differences between browsers. So electron makes plenty of sense to developer…
Re: Microsoft Teams 2 will use half the memory, dropping Electron for Edge Webview2
#100As if Electron is the actual problem hay. I am forced to have this junk running on my work PC at all times. As far as I know, everyone hates it. I only know a couple of people who like it and I definitely don't value their input since we disagree on pretty much everything I know Discord is supposed to be for gamers but I've only used it for work and it's hands down the best thing out there
I use Discord for family communications, it's great. We even have a #shoppinglist channel.