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John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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McAfee was an obviously unhinged lunatic peddling fringe nonsense. You can make an argument that cryptocurrency poses a threat to the state, but a 75 year old man who spends 16 hours a day rambling on twitter about fringe stuff does not. The available evidence points strongly to a deeply mentally ill guy facing life in prison and killing himself.

Unhinged folks can be murdered by state actors outside the law too... This is one of those situations which may well just be impossible to unravel in a satisfactory way. In fact, if you're clever and in intelligence, a good way to cover your tracks and generally be nefarious is to provide a reason for your desired outcome to happen. In other words, do what you can to encourage the unhinged tendencies of your target s…

> Unhinged folks can be murdered by state actors outside the law too...

Yeah, but the thing is the state usually doesn't need to whack them.

Like here: Why would the US have had McAfee killed; what would be gained from it that couldn't just as well be gained from letting him rot in jail, be it in Spain or the US?

And please don't try the old "to silence him / suppress the Secret Truths he knew!". A) The null hypothesis is that there are no such "Secret Truths"; and B) if anything, this "suspicious" death lends more weight, not less, to his deluded ravings. (As witnessed by much of this comment thread.)

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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One of his last messages, just a few days ago. It is sad and thoughtful: There is much sorrow in prison, disguised as hostility. The sorrow is plainly visible even in the most angry faces. I'm old and content with food and a bed but for the young prison is a horror - a reflection of the minds of those who conceived them. https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/140301918407478887...

Relevant Eric Weinstein tweeted this few minutes ago: > I have two bits of information about JE that are not public. > 1) An interchange from McAfee on Epstein. > 2) Knowledge that Epstein was asking after me in a late email just before he died. I have no idea why. There is no more contact about Epstein than one meeting about 20yrs ago. > With that said, there now is nothing I know of again on Epstein that is private…

Skype? How outdated is his understanding of computer security?

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#973
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One of two things is true. Either they believe everyone should be doing 30 years (preposterous) or they know they are committing a grave injustice against someone. There is no reasonable interpretation of selective enforcement.

Thats not how the law works. It's not code, its run by people for people.

I misread as “the” people and was confused. Sad.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#974

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I believe selective enforcement is a core part of policing in the US. No police agency has enough resources to go after everybody who breaks the law, so they make examples of high profile defendants to deter others.

Punishing someone more than they deserve in order to communicate a point to others, strikes me as a kind of political agenda, not justice.

“Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”

Focus on ‘unusual’. All the words in this document have a meaning.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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I didn't know him at all, but felt there was something I recognized and understood about what he was saying. If you must burn, burn bright. It looked like a great ride. This video of him playing piano is what I think he wanted people to know: https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/136205988701080781...

What is the “change” he was talking about here?

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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post #569

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It should absolutely be discounted. There's literally no evidence suggesting he was murdered. He was about to be extradited, the US Government was well on their way to making an example of him. There was no incentive to murder him.

Also of note - suicide in the US is extremely difficult if you've been identified as someone with intention. You get checked on every 15 minutes, including at night (which can be a torture by itself)

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Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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It is indeed an alternative possiblity, but the possiblity that he was murdered should not be discounted. Murdering those that challenge authority has been happening since the dawn of history and nothing has fundamentally changed. Well other than needing to make it look like a suicide since modern society likes to believe it's enlightened.

Make that "Murdering those that threaten authority". I consider it an "alternative possiblity" that Epstein hung himself.

Sure. But how many people in high places -- billionaires and top politicians -- had hung out with McAfee, on his yacht possibly sticking their dicks where they shouldn't have stuck them?

Feels much, much more plausible that Epstein was silenced than that McAfee would have been. At least AFAICR I haven't seen any even remotely credible reason why anyone would have needed McAfee silenced.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Abolishing taxes on movable private property, in favor of a tax on land ownership, would solve this. No one would be persecuted internationally because they refused to surrender their privacy and property in filing an income tax return and fulfilling the payment obligations imposed on them, respectively. To enforce a land tax is straightforward: you don't pay the tax, you are evicted from the land, and lose your righ…

Or just sell bonds like they already do for 10x what they collect in tax revenue. Taxation just lowers the interest rate.

BTC/ETH/etc create public utility (security etc) by controlled inflation without any tax. And no Bitcoin miner will ever show up at your house with guns demanding their fair share.

Tax is an anachronism of notes backed by land or gold. It’s inefficient, expensive, nearly impossible to enforce, and altogether obsolete.

You have a great username. I hope that in the future you’ll avoid promoting solutions that require violence to enforce.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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> did he deserve to be imprisoned I mean, that's kinda what happens when you don't pay your taxes and run from the government. He would've gotten a trial if he didn't commit suicide. > did he deserve to die No, I don't think anyone deserves to die. But, the most likely case here is he did kill himself, in which case, it's kinda on him.

> No, I don't think anyone deserves to die. technically, everyone dies... the question should be, did he deserve to be killed, if he was (not saying he was) or did he deserve to think that was his only way out?

> or did he deserve to think that was his only way out?

Hm, "deserve to think"... We're all totally responsible for our own thoughts, aren't we? I mean, who else could be; how could anyone else be?[1]

If McAfee had addled his brain with drugs so as to suffer paranoid-delusional fantasies; or even without drugs, if he had pondered weird conspiracy theories to the extent that he self-induced a persecution complex... Who's to blame for that but he himself; how could one claim that he didn't "deserve" it?

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[1 -- EDIT]: Besides "long-term brainwash" scenarios, that is. James Bond in a North Korean prison cell, a cowed and battered spouse / child(ren), members of an oppressive cult, shit like that. McAfee was none of those.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

#980

Spanish prisons are apparently among the worst in Europe according to some documentary I saw. I wonder if there's a connection.

At least Mcafee said Spanish prisons are like Hilton in comparison to USA ones[1], do you have the documentary name, it’s the one about Norway prisons? Just curious. [1] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9718567/amp/Antivir...

Sorry I don't recall. I don't think I ever knew actually. It was just something I came across.
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