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John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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It's a logical standard. You can't prove a negative (ie that you didn't do something and thus are innocent), so the burden of proof must always be on those making a claim to show that it is true. While it might not be as dangerous for the gossip column to employ fallacious reasoning as it would be for a court of law, that doesn't stop it from being wrong.

Outside the courtroom everybody makes judgements based on the balance of evidence, because we can’t possibly know enough facts to pass the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard.

"Beyond a reasonable doubt" isn't even the only standard of proof in a courtroom! That's only for criminal cases.

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post #504

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Prison time for tax evasion is extremely rare in the US. Almost always the IRS just collects the penalty and moves on. The only real exceptions are either for criminals with a lot of other charges stacked up (eg mob bosses). Or a public figure making a political statement like Wesley Snipes. Not saying this is good or bad. Just saying it’s how it is. Joe Sixpack who fails to report some cash income will almost certai…

Selective enforcement is bad. The fact that the law says that you could go to prison for one year for not filing taxes on time, but that it's rarely enforced means that they should fix the law. Using it only on "bad guys" is a recipe for the government punishing people that disagrees with them.

I believe selective enforcement is a core part of policing in the US. No police agency has enough resources to go after everybody who breaks the law, so they make examples of high profile defendants to deter others.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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It should absolutely be discounted. There's literally no evidence suggesting he was murdered. He was about to be extradited, the US Government was well on their way to making an example of him. There was no incentive to murder him.

"There's literally no evidence suggesting he was murdered." I mean, he did get a tattoo saying if he was found dead while in custody he had been murdered. But do go on...

That’s not how evidence works, my friend.

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The obvious point you're making is about a double standard -- rich people are unfairly given more slack than others. But an alternative framing amounts to evaluating a method by its results -- basically saying "I don't know why you're behaving that way, but for reasons I don't understand it seems to work for you." That obviously falls apart if you can cleanly separate their wealth/financial success from their behavio…

I was actually referring to the slack given to him for apparent murder and putting the police force on a payroll. “killing your neighbor, bribing the police and never serving a single day for it? What an eccentric person you are”

Don't forget about the rape allegations.

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The guys been in prison before and seemed to enjoy it, posted pictures from prison in the dominican republic which is way worse than spanish prison. The guy talked about being content a week ago, "I'm old and content with food and a bed", he felt bad for the young people who were afraid of prison. He was still able to tweet and enjoyed interacting with people. If you think he killed himself, you don't understand how…

> If you think he killed himself, you don't understand how humans work, plain and simple. Suicide doesn't involve humans working as they should, and anyone who pretends to understand suicide, or understand what motivates people to kill themselves, or believes anyone to be incapable of killing themself, is mistaken. I hope you never find out how mistaken you are.

Unless they’ve attempted it, which many people alive today have. I suspect even more have seriously considered it. But I agree that it is an acutely foreign place relative to the average human experience.

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No one deserves to be kidnapped and throw in a cell for the victimless crime of tax evasion. RIP, McAfee. In the 20th century: ~8 million were murdered in mundane crimes. ~175 million people were murdered by the state. Democracy is just violence in disguise. Pure evil.

Yeah, definitely democracy killed all those people.

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post #183

I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. I mean, sure he built some antivirus software a few decades ago, but I don't think he deserves the eulogies he's getting here. He's not tech's Hunter S. Thompson; he's a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams.

> he likely killed his neighbor > he's a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams Well, that escalated quickly.

Credibly accused of rape and multiple murders is the most accurate

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> This used to be a great country. When?

Seen from over the pond in Germany: It seems like the US were (compared to the rest of the world) at their best from 1860ish to 1970ish. When they had great education for he masses, public health, technological and economic progress, a certain naive idealism, and the most comfortable middle class in the world. Things were, if not already good, pointing in the right direction. After that, selfish and cynical elites to…

If you were white maybe. Black or Native American, not so much.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. I mean, sure he built some antivirus software a few decades ago, but I don't think he deserves the eulogies he's getting here. He's not tech's Hunter S. Thompson; he's a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams.

> I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. In America, we're supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty. It's a shame it really only takes an accusation.

Lol he fled his trial. Also people can make up their own mind and people can credibility can him a rapest and a murderer

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It should be noted that this Hunter S Thompson quote refers to Oscar Zeta Acosta. Acosta made a big difference fighting for the rights of poor and marginalized mexican-americans in east LA. He did something more with his life than just take a lot of drugs and be weird.

FWIW, if HST is to be believed, I think McAfee and Acosta would have gotten along: Oscar was not into serious street-fighting, but he was hell on wheels in a bar brawl. Any combination of a 250 lb Mexican and LSD-25 is a potentially terminal menace for anything it can reach – but when the alleged Mexican is in fact a profoundly angry Chicano lawyer with no fear at all of anything that walks on less than three legs an…

Reading this quote made me again think Hunter S Thompson is overrated. It's all like "Woo! this guy SO EXTREME!" Not a patch on Tom Wolfe.
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