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John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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I mean, he very likely killed his neighbor in 2012... so I feel like "colorful" undermines how much of a monster he's been for over a decade.

Guilty until proven innocent?

Well, technically, that can't happen now..

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That isn't relevant for two reasons: 1. Tax evasion and tax avoidance are not the same thing. 2. Most people who think McAffee didn't pay enough taxes probably also believe Bezos doesn't pay enough taxes.

Tax avoidance is tax evasion in all ways but legal.

Well yes, but the legality is the most important criteria. Does anyone voluntarily pay more in taxes than they legally have to pay?

I am completely onboard with the position that the rich don't pay enough taxes. I also agree that it is unfair how much control over the political system their money gives them and how that power can be used to add in even more tax breaks. However it is silly to pretend that rich people should pay more in taxes than they are legally required to pay.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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One of his last messages, just a few days ago. It is sad and thoughtful: There is much sorrow in prison, disguised as hostility. The sorrow is plainly visible even in the most angry faces. I'm old and content with food and a bed but for the young prison is a horror - a reflection of the minds of those who conceived them. https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/140301918407478887...

Relevant Eric Weinstein tweeted this few minutes ago:

> I have two bits of information about JE that are not public.

> 1) An interchange from McAfee on Epstein.

> 2) Knowledge that Epstein was asking after me in a late email just before he died. I have no idea why. There is no more contact about Epstein than one meeting about 20yrs ago.

> With that said, there now is nothing I know of again on Epstein that is private. There is no benefit to harassing me further. All Epstein information is now public. He crossed my path once. Seemed to know who I was. Interested in GU. That’s it. John and I have no recent contact.

> GU is now public. I have no more information as to its connection to Epstein other than he wanted it taken to Villard house. I’d like to talk to relevant physicists quickly given its role in the story. I give my permission to release any Epstein security video of me. Thanks.

> I’m quite concerned now given John’s 2020 call.

https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/140783396472377344...

Edit: what's with the downvotes?

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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30 years for tax evasion? No wonder he preferred to die. I mean, you’ll get jail time for severe cases of tax evasion in Germany, too, but it’s a couple of years at max and most of the time it’s on probation. How do you justify your draconic punishments in the US which is supposed to be a free country?

Not just that but as a US citizen even if you aren't living in the US anymore you still have to pay US taxes. The 2014-2018 income taxes he owed were while staying abroad. The US forces you to renounce your citizenship to get out of paying taxes to a country you don't live in. IANAL but that's my understanding.

And when you renounce your citizenship they tax your existing wealth.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Nope, we don’t add up prison time in Germany for repeating the same or related crimes over and over. On top, the 10/15 years are the maximum and barely reached. E.g. Uli Hoeneß, ex-manager of the soccer club Bayern Munich, got 3.5 years for evasion of ~30m dollar in a total of 7 counts, but could actually leave prison after sth like two years, 1.5 of which where „open jail time“, so he could go to work and only had t…

> Nope, we don’t add up prison time in Germany for repeating the same or related crimes over and over. On top, the 10/15 years are the maximum and barely reached. The USA is similar, sentences are often served concurrently meaning the headline numbers don’t get added up. Headlines reflect the absolute maximum penalties but there’s something called the Sentencing Guidelines that is used to set the actual length of the…

> but there’s something called the Sentencing Guideline

But which are, as the name suggests, “more what you’d call guidelines than actual rules.”

Still, a better measure of likely sentence than naively adding up statutory maxima for individual counts.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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That Thompson quote really resonates with me, thanks for sharing.

Read the whole book, then if you haven't already (Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas). Truly excellent.

I second the recommendation. I loved the book, though (to be honest) I did read it when I was pretty young.

It's not just about taking drugs, though plenty of drugs are taken. It's an outsider's look at just how weird society is. It's also absolutely hilarious.. but fully appreciating the humor may require experience with drugs.

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The sad thing is that our government seems to make a point of screwing with kooks. I don’t care if McAffee owed some taxes - leave the guy alone, he’s obviously unstable, has major problems with drug and alcohol addiction and all they can do is try to bring him even lower. Poor guy had major problems even before the “heroes” of the FBI or the IRS or whatever started screwing with him. Let the poor guy ride off into t…

> I don’t care if McAffee owed some taxes - leave the guy alone, he's obviously unstable This is ridiculous. Okay so let's leave all the rich people alone who claim they are unstable. McAfee made millions, from what I understand, he paid little taxes on that. That's stupid. I don't care how unstable you are, or how good you are donating your "fair share". You're still not excused from paying your taxes.

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Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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I guess Google, Facebook and Apple are stupid then too.

Yes. Yes, they absolutely are, and they should be prosecuted for their tax avoidance. Same with Amazon and all other companies. I, as lone individual tax payer, paid more in taxes in the UK than Amazon, Facebook, Google, and Apple did, probably combined. That is not okay. Edit: evasion > avoidance.

So what do you suggest? We move to a feeling-based tax rate? Because I feel Apple should pay $26.55bn in taxes and they have a LOT of money.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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That Thompson quote really resonates with me, thanks for sharing.

Read the whole book, then if you haven't already (Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas). Truly excellent.

This is the rare case when watching the movie is an acceptable substitute. Johnny Depp studied HST for months to get it right.
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