Safari is trash anyways it can hardly even render an svg properly and it sucks at webgl among many other things
Safari 15 on Mac OS, a user interface mess
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Re: Safari 15 on Mac OS, a user interface mess
#62I really like the new design on my 11inch MacBook. I don't use the tab bar, I use expose for tabs by pinching my fingers and there's a great view there to switch tabs.
Re: Safari 15 on Mac OS, a user interface mess
#63Am I the only person who likes this change? Normally, I’d have 4-5 tabs that I keep switching between fairly often and then 20-xx most of the time useless, de facto bookmarks. I use a keyboard shortcut with fuzzy find to pick the right one. Reclaiming the address bar space to cram more tabs on the screen is a marginal gain, at least in my case.
> Am I the only person who likes this change?
yes
Re: Safari 15 on Mac OS, a user interface mess
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, to me much of this sounds great. No menu bar? Great, I never use it. Keyboard shortcuts make it unnecessary. No reload button? Great, one less thing I don’t use cluttering up the UI. I understand that less experienced users may find this confusing though. Although saying that i think anyone can learn Cmd-R and Cmd-W, and would be better off for it. I agree with the article on the tab/address bar merge being bad…
It makes no sense to optimize for niche power users over general casual users.
Can you name any non-niche casual website that requires you to refresh the current page?
Unfortunately, I can’t recall one, and it seems to me that refreshing a page in 2021 has become a niche feature reserved for IT guys who know how HTTP works.
Re: Safari 15 on Mac OS, a user interface mess
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you honestly think this is a one-person job? While you might question the outcome of product development, assuming that a multi-billion R&D budget accounts for 1 designer is just unhelpful. Even just the WebKit commits with Apple engineering contacts is enough to build a whole company around...
One person had the initial idea; the hive mind doesn't make radical changes like this on its own. A lot of times, you can end up with amazing new ideas that way, but sometimes a change based on ego / "that person is just so brilliant" is just bad. The tab bar thing is going to be Touch Bar 2.0, I think. The question is, how long is Apple going to push it? I was hopeful the Touch Bar would die with M1 Macs...
I'm sure there is one (administratively) responsible person in the end, but I haven't every had a large-scale design lean on just 1 person or have very low-quantity lynchpins.
I doubt Apple's inner workings are simplistic in such a way that one person with some sort of clout pushed this with no further thought.
At the end of the day this is just speculation but purely negative speculation is just some form of populism/FUD and makes everything worse.
Re: Safari 15 on Mac OS, a user interface mess
#66Is there a way to downgrade to an earlier safari version? I'm about to get a new macbook, and I'm not particularly looking forward to having to deal with these UI changes ...
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Re: Safari 15 on Mac OS, a user interface mess
#67Is there a way to downgrade to an earlier safari version? I'm about to get a new macbook, and I'm not particularly looking forward to having to deal with these UI changes ...
You can not use safari. Chrome for example mostly stays the same unless they feel compelled with these Apple UI changes
Firefox? Waterfox? Brave? Edge?
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ad blockers on Safari are apparently unable to block YouTube ads, due to API limitations. I wish Firefox wouldn't excessively drain the battery on macOS, and Chrome wouldn't excessively drain personal data to Google, and Brave wouldn't excessively violate the trust of its users. As of today, there's not a single browser on macOS that I don't strongly dislike. Looks like Safari won't improve soon.
Adguard blocks YouTube ads. Maybe actually try it before dismissing it lol
I tried 1blocker and Wipr. Both failed to block YouTube ads due to said API limitations (as confirmed by their devs).
If it's in fact an API limitation, why bother trying yet another blocker? After your reply, I did a quick search for Adguard and found this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Adguard/comments/nahkk4/adguard_not...
Re: Safari 15 on Mac OS, a user interface mess
#69I’ve considered switching to Safari on my Mac because I had heard that it has stellar performance. However, with no support for uBlock Origin because of their incomplete implementation of the extensions API, and now these UI changes, it looks like I’ll stick with Firefox. I still plan to stay with my Mac because of the ecosystem. I’m one of the few who seems to actually like Windows 10. There are warts in Microsoft’s…
Adguard is 99% the same, and free, and on iOS.
Is it free? I'm looking at the Mac download now and it says that it's a 14-day trial with a monthly subscription afterwards, and I'm not entirely happy with relying on a subscription-based service.
Re: Safari 15 on Mac OS, a user interface mess
#70For tabs, I beg to disagree -- tabs have been somewhat meaningless to me when pinch to "expose" was introduced. It works really well, I can search through my tabs if I have a ton of them as well.
For share being buried, I'd have to agree. It's the one thing I use most and we end up having to poke more at our screens to do so.
That said, it's no means perfect. Some features I want to see in Safari are: - multiple profiles (work, personal etc.) ideally integrated with this new Focus concept that the new OS introduces - grouping: create, manage and switch tab groups - bring back the single click share button