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Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

onychomys wrote: post #158
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #113

Honestly, HN may want to just consider banning any site that runs this news article from being posted on HN, because this claim is basically proof they did not do even cursory research before posting. Here's the 2015 story covering this date announcement, which bears no relation to recent rumors at all: https://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/20/microsoft-to-support-windo...

You want to ban.....the BBC?

I mean, this is an example of where their technology reporting isn't even close to adequate. They're reporting an 11 year old fact as "news", that doesn't actually reflect the reality of today.

For a technology-focused community, BBC reporting on technology isn't adequate. And a bunch of blogspam articles have "covered" this "news" as well. I think it's a sign of bad journalism.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by bserge »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #105
artificialLimbs wrote: post #18

>> Windows 10 was released in July 2015 and dubbed "Windows as a service" Can we please have 7 back, with its complete lack of built in ads, dark patterns ramming the Microsoft browser down your throat, telemetry everywhere (the calculator, really?), changes for the sake of showing that some manager did something rather than functionality (Rename this PC -> Rename this PC (Advanced))? Windows 10 still regularly shows…

It’s called Windows 10 LTSC and it’s great. Sadly, Microsoft won’t sell it to you. But it’s... out there.

FWIW, Enterprise is the same, but with more updates... which sadly install at whatever time W10 wants with no regard for active hours (not sure what's up with that).

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by 1_player »

Jedd wrote: post #68

It's an interesting experiment to ask the average Microsoft Windows user to identify - let's say 5 things - in their current workflows, that they couldn't do in Microsoft Windows XP (or 7, etc - pick the subject's age-appropriate release). Similarly for versions of Microsoft Office products.

WSL

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #141
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #113

Honestly, HN may want to just consider banning any site that runs this news article from being posted on HN, because this claim is basically proof they did not do even cursory research before posting. Here's the 2015 story covering this date announcement, which bears no relation to recent rumors at all: https://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/20/microsoft-to-support-windo...

> October 13, 2020 marks the end of mainstream support. Pretty sure that article's been out of date for a while.

So, it's basically just the default commitment Microsoft makes for new Windows versions, according to their Lifecycle Policy. It doesn't reflect the Windows-as-a-Service model at all, so is almost certainly not relevant to their actual plans.

The newer understanding is that Microsoft will release a new feature update every 6 months, and support each of them for 18 months. Almost certainly, this big refresh being announced soon will continue that model: All Windows 10 PCs will be eligible, support for existing releases will be for 18 months from their release, etc.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by williamtwild »

rchaud wrote: post #165

I have a Win 7 laptop from 2011 that honestly runs faster than a modern desktop with twice the RAM running Win 10. Had Win 10 since 2015 and it seems to be getting slower with each update. Which flavour of Linux is closest to 'just works'? Mint?

I use Mint most of the time with MX Linux now and then .

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by Jedd »

beart wrote: post #147
Jedd wrote: post #68

It's an interesting experiment to ask the average Microsoft Windows user to identify - let's say 5 things - in their current workflows, that they couldn't do in Microsoft Windows XP (or 7, etc - pick the subject's age-appropriate release). Similarly for versions of Microsoft Office products.

Virtual Desktops Hyper-v Default notepad that understands linux style line endings Default ISO mounting support without having to download sketchy tools Default ZIP support without having to download winrar

Thanks for the thoughtful list.

At the risk of sounding churlish, the last three can be done on earlier versions of Microsoft Windows, for varying degrees of downloading 'sketchy tools'.

Notepad.exe upgrade occurred last year I think? But one feels like Microsoft could have done that at any time in the past 3 decades. I suspect anyone who was hurt by this was likely to long since shifted to Notepad++.

Virtual Desktops are indeed a compelling feature, which I've relied on with KDE since last century -- though I still haven't tried them on a Windows box.

Hyper-V -- I've used this a few times on Windows 10, though I believe it's not available on the most common version of the OS, right? I'm using Pro and Education versions - which do have the feature.

Luckily I said compared to Windows XP, because Hyper-V's been available since Windows 8 / Server 2008.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by patentatt »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #105
artificialLimbs wrote: post #18

>> Windows 10 was released in July 2015 and dubbed "Windows as a service" Can we please have 7 back, with its complete lack of built in ads, dark patterns ramming the Microsoft browser down your throat, telemetry everywhere (the calculator, really?), changes for the sake of showing that some manager did something rather than functionality (Rename this PC -> Rename this PC (Advanced))? Windows 10 still regularly shows…

It’s called Windows 10 LTSC and it’s great. Sadly, Microsoft won’t sell it to you. But it’s... out there.

I find Win10 Enterprise to be almost as good, with some group policies set (like "Turn off Microsoft consumer experiences" and "Restrict Internet communication," among others) it is quite stable and unobtrusive.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by infinitezest »

beart wrote: post #147
Jedd wrote: post #68

It's an interesting experiment to ask the average Microsoft Windows user to identify - let's say 5 things - in their current workflows, that they couldn't do in Microsoft Windows XP (or 7, etc - pick the subject's age-appropriate release). Similarly for versions of Microsoft Office products.

Virtual Desktops Hyper-v Default notepad that understands linux style line endings Default ISO mounting support without having to download sketchy tools Default ZIP support without having to download winrar

My guess is that most users of Windows won't even know what items 2-4 even mean much less find them a boon to their every day workflows. They're nice but they don't seem like the sort of things that couldn't just be added to XP/7.
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