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Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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OS stability is not the thing that people are concerned about when criticising Windows 10. What has made me turn away from windows is the complete lack of trust I have that the OS will respect my privacy.

I still don't get why Apple/Google are totally fine to collect telemetry but Microsoft is somehow supposed to not do that.

Nobody's excusing them in this thread. But for me, Windows 8 was actually the last straw. I hate this "all your data are belong to us" mentality, and that absolutely includes smartphones, tablets, and internet "things" [edit: as well as PCs].

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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So, if I bought a bunch of licenses under the promise of eternal updates, how should I feel and what should I do now.

Beat up whatever liar gave you that false promise. "Eternal updates" are not a thing that has or will ever happen.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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I have a strange feeling that the next version will be based on Linux kernel

Why would they throw away all driver compatibility and force themselves to rewrite all the userland libraries?

> and force themselves to rewrite all the userland libraries?

They already did a lot of that for the Linux port of SQL Server, which as I understand it is basically the same program running with a bundled compatibility layer that's basically an official Microsoft equivalent of WINE.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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What happened to the rumours that Microsoft was making a Windows Wrapper on top of the Linux kernel? https://www.zdnet.com/article/open-sources-eric-raymond-wind...

They had no credibility to begin with, just an old man yelling at the clouds.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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"a more modern look and a redesigned Start menu" Oh please no. Hopefully the new OS will lead to less updates for Windows 10 being force pushed to my computer.

This was one of the reasons I hated my work IPhone.

Sooooooo many updates.

Apologists will say it's fir new features and security, but it was just an annoyance. I don't even notice if my pixel gets updated.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Pass. Windows 10 is just so much better than 7. I still don’t get why people don’t move on. I’m happier having window 10 which has never crashed on me vs 7 which did it weekly.

2011 Windows 7 desktop install still running daily at home with no signs of slowing down. Runs everything I need, even games. Never gave me a single issue even after frankenstining with added NVMe and newer GPU. Two year old Win 10 work PC install committed suicide after updating few months back. Blue screen on boot. Spent more time "troubleshooting" that issue than reinstalling win 10 after giving up.

Well, those are 2 different PCs, so it's hard to compare them. Anyway I'm sure we all can come up with opposite stories as well, so to continue with anecdotes: unlike back in the days, blue screens (well, the ones I encounter, like 1 a year across 50+ machines of all ages) now are most often caused by actual harware failures the OS (be it Winows or linux) cannot cope with. Pre Windows-7 every stupid driver manufacturer would cause it instead. At least that has been fixed now.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Honestly, HN may want to just consider banning any site that runs this news article from being posted on HN, because this claim is basically proof they did not do even cursory research before posting. Here's the 2015 story covering this date announcement, which bears no relation to recent rumors at all: https://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/20/microsoft-to-support-windo...

You want to ban.....the BBC?

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Microsoft would never make the base of their system open source. It is fundamentally opposite to how Microsoft does business.

All the stuff they have recently released as open-source speaks otherwise. The problem why they will most likely never be able to open-source Windows is rather that they bought a lot of third-party components for the system that they simply aren't allowed to open-source. They'd probably have to rebuild half of the system to be able to open-source it, and that's the unlikely part.

I'm pretty sure there's even pieces of the broader system that they don't have source to outright; pinball was an example, and that one piece of Office... equation editor? Anyways, right; even if they absolutely wanted to open source everything right now, they certainly don't have ownership of everything needed to do that, and while they probably have the actual code for most things it's not necessarily guaranteed.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Microsoft would never make the base of their system open source. It is fundamentally opposite to how Microsoft does business.

It wouldn't need to be open source. They would make closed-source distro with custom kernel modules and packages. Just like MacOS.

MacOS isn't Linux-based.
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