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Post by jc_811 »

joboyx wrote: post #872
jc_811 wrote: post #658

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That I can totally understand. However, if we're looking at the labor market as a whole, people making comfortable tech salaries are definitely outliers. Coupled with the fact that (anecdotally) it seems many of the people who don't want to return to their old jobs (or want to resign) are either in the service industry, or have/had lower paid entry level job salaries, I'm still stuck trying to understand how these fo…

Isn't it a norm that before you resign you already signed the job offee on yor next job? So there's no down time for you?

I mentioned it in another comment, but if this is the case it feels like calling the movement a “great resignation” is a bit misleading, as a more appropriate label would be a “great company switching”

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Post by instaheat »

Quit my sales job cold turkey. I'm in the enviable position of a having a large bank account and and setting my sights on reading more and creating a business. There are challenges ahead that is to be sure but the significant weight on my shoulders has been lifted.

I got so tired of the micromanagement and constant pressure from Management to meet production standards, that I couldn't take it anymore.

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Post by AussieWog93 »

munk-a wrote: post #842
RealDeal123 wrote: post #773

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US GDP has been lower than China GDP since 2019 and if anything the pandemic accelerated the process of Chinese economic outpacing the US economy. In China there is enough money for everyone to have living wage too. And you pay for you healthcare in China too even though their GDP is enough to cover it for all Chinese citizens. Apparently they are focusing on the big picture, i.e. becoming No.1 and surpassing US by a…

China achieving an equivalent standard of living would probably not work out so well for the authoritarian government there - but it would work out surprisingly well for Marxism. Actually equalizing US and Chinese wages would lead to an extreme acceleration of other areas with depressed wages and, potentially, lead to the world becoming more equal in wages without the current assumed approach - that US wages will def…

>China achieving an equivalent standard of living would probably not work out so well for the authoritarian government there

That myth has been disproven long ago. Achieving a high standard of living and level of education does not magically cause people to pour into the streets and protest against their authoritarian governments.

>A world where China elevates itself to the US's level is one we should celebrate in the west as it means we need to suffer less ourselves.

A world where Xi Jinping is in charge of the global economy is a world where fundamental dignity is stripped from anyone who isn't Han, white-collar, hyper-nationalistic and living on the East Coast of Mainland China.

Many nations in Asia are gearing up economically and militarily to make sure this cannot happen.

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Post by austincheney »

TheHegemon wrote: post #876
adaml_623 wrote: post #225

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Can you give examples. I'm not clear on what you mean

Looking at the code examples they shared it seems like they are the lone-wolf sort of developer that wants to "solve problems" in code that no one else can read.

The inability to read code (literacy) is a training problem.

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Post by elevenoh »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #323
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Agree. More people should try out different living contexts to find which tradeoff matrix works best for them. I'm now in Vancouver BC, quite a high population density, yet I find it's super easy to remain healthy & happy (air quality, access to nature, safety etc.).

Vancouver BC is quite an outlier in those qualities, which is reflected in its land prices.

That's for sure. The urban planning here really turned out well.

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Post by elevenoh »

jonfw wrote: post #128
elevenoh wrote: post #112

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Is open finance less useful than ads? I don't think so.

Open finance sounds cool until you realize it means crypto, which is not very useful

hmmm, i can loan stablecoins via crypto & receive interest with zero intermediary. or i can sell digital assets (e.g. art or IP) directly as an artist anywhere in the world, uncensorably & without revealing my identity (e.g. if in China). pretty useful.

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Post by imranq »

Accujack wrote: post #725
maybelsyrup wrote: post #697

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> Real Translation: Covid has made people miserable in their jobs. Small quibble: Covid has shown people how miserable their jobs have always been. All it's taken is a slight shift, a small perk, here and there, and people see it clear as day, and they want out. White collar workers got work from home: actually, it turns out I can give legal advice while planting basil in my backyard and no one on the conference call…

>I think lots of myth and propaganda about work got blown up in the last year. Many years of corporations "boiling the frog" and slowly lowering flexibility and not improving pay have been reset. People hadn't noticed, and now they have. It'll probably happen all over again, but at least there's hope for now.

One quick note is that the boiling frog metaphor actually doesn't happen in nature. When the water is too hot, the frogs jump out

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2006/09/the-b...

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Post by pedrosorio »

jjav wrote: post #769
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The company that the candidate previously worked for is typically not permitted to say anything about the candidate without prior authorization. Your proposed solution is not workable. I've previously hired contractors with minimal interviewing because they came from a trusted partner to my organization, so I asked the partner about their productivity and skills and they were given good reviews relative to what we we…

> Competence is a spectrum and so at some level of competence there will be people who are competent but unable to pass overly complex interview questions Competence is most absolutely not one spectrum. Competence is measured in dozens (hundreds, really) different axis. Everyone will have different scores (if we could realiably narrow it to a score, which we can't) on different axis of skills. Which of the skill axis…

> memorization of algorithm puzzles

Have you considered that with a strong understanding of elementary algorithms and data structures it is possible "solve" rather than "memorize" these algorithm puzzles?

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Post by mavelikara »

mrfusion wrote: post #440
softwaredoug wrote: post #416

Nobody is mentioning people leaving jobs because they DONT want remote. I do know of people frustrated that their company is closing its swanky office they enjoyed working at to be 100% remote.

Agreed. Ideally I’d want flexibility to decide when to WFH and then still have a nice office to come into when I feel social, or need to collaborate.

> still have a nice office to come into when I feel social

Who else would be at the office then to socialize with you? Paid actors?

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Post by BobbyJo »

maybelsyrup wrote: post #743
nonotreally6 wrote: post #709

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You mean the Fed printed a ton of money and sent it to everyone making less than a certain amount, and the government guaranteed wages for those who no longer wish to work, and caused a labor shortage and inflation. Soon those benefits will be insufficient, due to inflation, if the government continues to print money, and the real wages of the existing wage earners who actually produce value for the good of society b…

> for those who no longer wish to work > to those who don't wish to work > those who choose not to work at all > the same for working and for doing nothing, that people choose the latter You're making my point for me with the arbeit macht frei dog-whistles here. So let me be clear: if "work" is defined as "millions of white and blue collar professional lives before Covid, lives replete with Kafka-esque meaninglessnes…

I think you're focusing on the wrong things (for instance, no one called anyone a leech). The fact is, we don't live in a post-scarcity society yet. Until we do work can't be about meaning, it has to be about need. Look around your house and life. Count the number of things you own and services you use that are not fun to make or maintain. Until that number hits 0, the majority of society will need to be forced to do jobs they don't want to in order to survive.

Things can definitely be more equitable than they are now, and should be if we truly want a meritocracy, but let's not get caught up in the delusion that society can exist without people doing shit jobs they don't like.

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