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Post by throwaway0a5e »

ta988 wrote: post #98
ho_schi wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure about middle class O_o Higher-middle and upper class more likely? Kids which need to earn their money usually go straight into apprenticeship or university and earn money promptly.

Do we really have a precise scale for those things?

People tend to flip flop between the classical "wealthy people but not born into centuries old familial wealth on the top end and successful doctors, lawyers and financial professionals on the bottom end" definition and the "blue collar workers plus or minus a little" definition based on whichever is more convenient for the point they are trying to make that minute.

Basically the GP is using the former definition and the person you're replying to is using the latter definition.

Crap on the Marxists all you want but they do at least have a fairly unambiguous taxonomy for these distinctions.

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Post by ahelwer »

aphextron wrote: post #110
ahelwer wrote: post #62

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Beyond the distasteful idea that we should always act in a way demonstrating obedience to potential employers, the solution to this is extremely easy. Gap year? No! I am merely doing independent consulting. Do I actually have any contracts? So many questions! Plus if you actually use the time to work on OSS instead of traveling or whatever I have no idea how an employer (that you'd want to work at) could fault you fo…

>Gap year? No! I am merely doing independent consulting. Do I actually have any contracts? So many questions! People aren't stupid. They'll have questions. And lies are extremely hard to keep straight in the long term. The sad fact of the matter is that you are not a person to them in the initial hiring process. You are a piece of paper. And unless you are some rock star 10x top level candidate with impressive creden…

See my other comment on why this isn't lying. And stop being scared of your own shadow around interviewers.

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Post by KineticLensman »

dreen wrote: post #7

Im quitting and not looking for another job. Gonna use the savings to take a gap year, or a couple, work on some stuff I want maybe. Maybe more involvement in OSS is coming too? I've never had a gap year, it was all school, then immigration, work, university, more work. Any holiday time you fly back home. I kept hearing its not unusual for people in the west to take gap years, so thats what Im doing. edit: thank you…

I haven't taken a gap year myself but a good friend took a six month unpaid travel-leave period in the company we both used to work for. He had a great time. When he finished and got back into work he realised that his break very similar to a female employee taking maternity leave. As it happened, our company was quite good with maternity leave, and many of the women who took it resumed very successful careers. So, perhaps worth checking at your own place to see how maternity leave is handled.

He didn't notice any long term career effects although he had to re-establish himself somewhat with new people and projects that had appeared in his absence.

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Post by sthu11182 »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #60
sfeng wrote: post #50

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I think this is horrible advice. I’ve hired all sorts of people with voluntary time off on their resume. Your experience doesn’t ‘expire’ in a single year. Life is about more than just working, if you have the money to take time off to enjoy your life you shouldn’t not do it out of fear.

He's right about it being harder to get a job while unemployed. You finish your gap year and then spend another 6 months trying to get hired. Maybe if you lived in SF it'd be easier.

Key thing, when you quit, don't burn bridges. I took a year off, did some traveling after working at my job for 8 years. At the end of the year, I applied to a few jobs, but my old boss contacted me to rehire me. I went back as if I never left. I am in a different field, so you experience may vary, but if you are in a good team, your old boss is likely to rehire you instead of investing in someone they don't know and have to train.

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Post by DrBazza »

dreen wrote: post #7

Im quitting and not looking for another job. Gonna use the savings to take a gap year, or a couple, work on some stuff I want maybe. Maybe more involvement in OSS is coming too? I've never had a gap year, it was all school, then immigration, work, university, more work. Any holiday time you fly back home. I kept hearing its not unusual for people in the west to take gap years, so thats what Im doing. edit: thank you…

> Maybe more involvement in OSS is coming too?

Maybe not this directly, but I expect more people quitting "megacorp" jobs, will lead to another big wave of "innovation" in tech in the next few years as people spin up small companies to 'scratch that itch' they've had for a while.

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Post by koheripbal »

jitl wrote: post #87
ChrisRR wrote: post #46

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Damn, America really needs to get their act together. Being from England, I hadn't even considered that healthcare is something that has to be factored into whether someone could take time off

After I left Airbnb, I paid $680 a month to keep my previously employer-paid health insurance. Very cool, loved to have the “freedom of choice” to “participate in the market”. Insurance feels like another little way businesses seek to own people in the US. Want to own yourself? Gotta pay the lease… on your own body.

Most businesses would very much prefer NOT to have to deal with employee health plans. Forgetting the cost to them - it's a massive annoying overhead and nightmare to manage.

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Post by sumtechguy »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #60
sfeng wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is horrible advice. I’ve hired all sorts of people with voluntary time off on their resume. Your experience doesn’t ‘expire’ in a single year. Life is about more than just working, if you have the money to take time off to enjoy your life you shouldn’t not do it out of fear.

He's right about it being harder to get a job while unemployed. You finish your gap year and then spend another 6 months trying to get hired. Maybe if you lived in SF it'd be easier.

There are 200 resumes in this pile. 199 of them need to go for one reason or another. 'no recent experience' is one of those reasons.

Re: “Great resignation” wave coming for companies

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Post by thrwyoilarticle »

runawaybottle wrote: post #6

Hiring is just picking up. If you didn’t grab the best people during the pandemic because you had an incredible glut of qualified people applying, good luck doing that shit now.

+1. We froze all hiring during the initial lockdowns, while continuing to advertise our positions. Now we're hiring again but, in aggregate, all of the good engineers who were made redundant have already been hired and those that remain are the bad ones.

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

pimterry wrote: post #104
ho_schi wrote: post #79

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Are you sure about middle class O_o Higher-middle and upper class more likely? Kids which need to earn their money usually go straight into apprenticeship or university and earn money promptly.

In the UK it's very common. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... is some UK gov research that suggests it's about 20% of UK university students, which matches my experiences. Obviously it's easier with rich parents, but it doesn't really require as much cash as you're imagining. It's pretty common to work a little first then use all the cash to travel later for example, or to work while you…

Doesn't university student already imply financial security? I don't know how socialist education is in the UK nowadays. I know in the Netherlands it used to be that your education is effectively paid for (either free / you get a scholarship like I did, or a very attractive loan scheme). But they changed the system so it's a loan for everyone now, which will put a damper on how many people go to college / university AND everybody that graduates will be in debt, which works against them if they're looking for a house in an already overheated market.
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