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Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by ubercow13 »

ohgodplsno wrote: post #45
willtim wrote: post #29

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Yep, shows thumbnails for pictures, videos, pdfs etc. More formats than Windows in fact. Windows has been standing still, the rest of the world hasn't. EDIT: I used "Files", not the file picker.

Thumbnail preview is a _massive_ attack surface. All those RCEs in JPEGs, MP4s, PDFs etc are now potentially immediately executed upon displaying the file. No thanks.

What do you do between opening the file manager and opening the image/video itself that verifies it doesn’t have any RCE exploits that other people aren’t doing?

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by lycopodiopsida »

silicon2401 wrote: post #142
duxup wrote: post #3

I'll be honest. I kinda lost track of windows, android, iOS versions at some point. And I think that's probably ok... I use it, it works, there ya go. Most everything I do really isn't OS dependent. I do fondly remember the days when OS upgrades was a huge change. I'll always fondly think of the Rolling Stone's "Start Me Up" and trying out OS/2 and various Linux flavors and so on. I used to spend HOURS customizing my…

I can relate. At my first job, I spent ages customizing my Macbook. Everything from dark/light themes, shortcuts, gestures, terminal, bash aliases, etc, was meticulously personalized to be both effective and fun. Then I moved to a second job and was horrified at the thought of going through all that work a second time. Now I wget my bash aliases, tweak things as I go, and leave it at that. I wish there was a good way…

The key here is to focus on tools with portable configs. Hammerspoon is easy to install and has a text config and so is Emacs, Alfred/Launchbar config folder can be copied and advanced keyboard shortcuts, like a hyperkey, can be configured with a better keyboard directly(QMK). This way you won't spend much time reconfiguring a new machine, if you don’t switch them every week. And all the small things can sum up to a better quality of work in the end.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by dafzor »

jiriro wrote: post #166
passivate wrote: post #119

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Our IT has given us deployment sticks for W10 Pro which format/install/deploy the OS using one script in about 5 minutes with zero nags/prompts anything else. It also sets up a default (non-cloud) user. I think its called an 'unattended' setup. So it definitely can be done. I think MS needs to provide a "Yes, I know what I'm doing, go away" Windows ISO.

Could you please elaborate on how that usb stick was made? :-) Time to time I need to do some Windows config/deployment – shortcuts, printers, make the damned NumLock ON, set those PDFs to open NOT in that ducked Edge;) and so on .. But this is not my top skill and after googling for some time I’d kill for a spot on advice.

All that's really needed is to add a Provisioning package to any normal usb install stick. Microsoft offers a UI based editor that allows you set the options you want as well as add scripts to be run.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/provi...

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by dafzor »

pjerem wrote: post #174
bydo wrote: post #160

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There was even one release of Windows 10 Home where you couldn't create a local account, unless you tricked it by not connecting to a network. Not sure if this is still the case with current builds or if they came to their senses. And good luck if you did create one and you also happen to use Office 365, because now you have two Microsoft accounts, possibly with the same email address, that use the same login page, a…

Oh did you say just TWO ? Nah. I created a Microsoft account with my work mail adress. Then a Windows 10 account with this stupid installer. So I did get two accounts. But that was before my employer decided to create « corporate » Microsoft accounts for everyone. That’s 3 accounts. With the same mail address. Now I just avoid to log in with those accounts because I don’t even understand how it even works.

On https://account.microsoft.com/profile you can change your email address for the account, changing them to a new email account will let you "unlink" them from your work email.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by AstralStorm »

ludocode wrote: post #149
corndoge wrote: post #7

Wasn't Windows 10 supposed to be the last Windows version ever? As in it was going to be evergreen? Did I imagine that? Edit: Yeah I didn't imagine it https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-ve...

I'm guessing they made the decision to make it evergreen too late in the process so they were still selling it over-the-counter as traditional shrink-wrap software. A Windows 10 license purchased directly from Microsoft lasts "forever" and can be transferred to a new computer. They won't make that mistake with the next Windows. I'm sure they will still offer the Home edition bundled with new computers and locked to t…

At that point, if it costs more than 50 cents monthly I'm not paying. Previous versions of Enterprise costed less than this over their lifetime. Not to mention Professional.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by AstralStorm »

zxzax wrote: post #188
ravenstine wrote: post #183

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The thing that irks me more than churn is not providing pathways forward. It's like, if you're going to get rid of bookmarks, then either give me an add-on that brings them back or give me time to adjust to not having bookmarks. Gnome used to be one of the worst at communicating their intentions. You never knew what you were going to get if you were going to upgrade Gnome. But I come from the philosophy of frontend J…

You are perceiving arrogance where there is none. These are volunteer-driven projects, for better or worse the deal has always been "take it or leave it," or fork it if that's what you prefer. If there is something you want extracted into a library, just go and extract it and make the library. Of course if you choose to abandon it entirely then it's going to be a total crapshoot if it improves the way you want it to.

This attitude results in the only possible answer being "leave it". Nobody has time to fix it in any nontrivial way who isn't being paid to do it, and if you're being paid, it's not volunteer work and you're supposed to pull your weight.

RedHat is not a volunteer project and it ate half of Linux. Volunteer projects in fact tend to be the more stable and polished parts of it.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by salamandersauce »

pxc wrote: post #111
TravHatesMe wrote: post #12

> There is little doubt that the system will be called Windows 11, but it may still not be so. For some reason my gut says it won't be called Windows 11. I have a feeling it will be called something confusing or unappealing. Love MS products but they always fell short with branding.

> For some reason my gut says it won't be called Windows 11. I have a feeling it will be called something confusing or unappealing. Love MS products but they always fell short with branding. This strikes me as so odd, both because to me Microsoft products don't have a singular vibe that I could rule on, and because Windows, to me, is obviously the worst Microsoft product by a mile. Like, of things I've used recently:…

It will probably be called 11. They have been leaving hints all over the place that it will be. The event starts at 11 a.m. which is not when they usually do, the invite showed an animation where the light going through the window ignored the cross bar making an 11, they released an 11 minute video of slowed down Windows start up sounds on YouTube. It'll either be called 11 or they are trolling hard.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by zxzax »

AstralStorm wrote: post #206
zxzax wrote: post #188

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You are perceiving arrogance where there is none. These are volunteer-driven projects, for better or worse the deal has always been "take it or leave it," or fork it if that's what you prefer. If there is something you want extracted into a library, just go and extract it and make the library. Of course if you choose to abandon it entirely then it's going to be a total crapshoot if it improves the way you want it to.

This attitude results in the only possible answer being "leave it". Nobody has time to fix it in any nontrivial way who isn't being paid to do it, and if you're being paid, it's not volunteer work and you're supposed to pull your weight. RedHat is not a volunteer project and it ate half of Linux. Volunteer projects in fact tend to be the more stable and polished parts of it.

I'm not sure what you mean, the paid people are still volunteering. They don't really have to spend company time upstreaming anything, they could technically keep all their patches in a private fork, but the company allows them to upstream things because it makes the most sense. You also don't have to leave it, you can also make a private fork too, and work on it slowly, if it makes the most sense to you.

These complaints about Red Hat are what make no sense to me, if you believe they are "eating Linux" for the worse then I would advise you to produce a version of Linux with all of the Red Hat commits removed, and see for yourself if it's more stable and polished. It may not be, because you would likely also be removing a lot of the bug fixes they upstream.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by CRConrad »

spicybright wrote: post #154
c7DJTLrn wrote: post #140

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I couldn't give a damn about macOS or the "Linux desktop". Yet I would still call Windows a disaster. Windows 10 was released almost 6 years ago now, and it's still a Frankenstein mess of 10 different UI styles dating all the way back to Win95, with no apparent drive to fix it up and make it consistent. Microsoft has extremely weak engineering culture.

They cater to business more than individual consumers. Backwards compatibility matters to them much more than ui consistency. I tend to agree with that for my own uses. I don't care if it's pretty if it works.

Those myriad incompatible UIs are just as annoying at work, so how does "cater to business more than individual consumers" make them any better?
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