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Was probably true until macOS "went to 11," a la Spinal Tap.
There you have it: "Windows Stonehenge"
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Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025
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Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025
#162Wasn't Windows 10 supposed to be the last Windows version ever? As in it was going to be evergreen? Did I imagine that? Edit: Yeah I didn't imagine it https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-ve...
> Edit: Yeah I didn't imagine it
Sure. You could have used the posted article itself as your source since that already covered it.
Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025
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That stupid weather widget and the Xbox overlay randomly popping up, completely disabling input without an obvious way to get out (some random win key combo), finally drove me to dump Windows as a daily driver. It even drove me to get some real work done on my passion project so I'd never have to use a Windows VM for CAD ever again. I lived through Micro$oft but I was too inexperienced to understand the hate directed…
To turn off the weather. Right click on the task bar, news and interests, turn off.
If only that were the only step to stop the new Windows install spam.
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Is that relevant to Gnome? It's used the same file manager "Nautilus" for years. Apple and Microsoft are also quite capable of killing software projects.
How long have you been using Gnome for? I'd been a while for me, but back when I was using Linux it seemed like Nautilus was frequently dropping features for things I didn't care about. https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/gnom... Gnome may be different now, but they were part of a pattern in the GNU/Linux community that ultimately caused me to leave it. I knew I couldn't rely on either Gnome or di…
I've been using i3 up until recently. I'm trying out Gnome because it works out-of-the-box and e.g. Sway does not. Yes the software churn is rather worrying. I hope they learn from the mistakes.
Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025
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I couldn't give a damn about macOS or the "Linux desktop". Yet I would still call Windows a disaster. Windows 10 was released almost 6 years ago now, and it's still a Frankenstein mess of 10 different UI styles dating all the way back to Win95, with no apparent drive to fix it up and make it consistent. Microsoft has extremely weak engineering culture.
They cater to business more than individual consumers. Backwards compatibility matters to them much more than ui consistency. I tend to agree with that for my own uses. I don't care if it's pretty if it works.
That argument doesn't make sense. UI has no impact on API compatibility. The only situation in which software would break is if it's doing screen scraping and automated input, in which case that software deserves to break.
Backwards compatibility is not an excuse to allow 20 years of tech debt to accumulate anyway.
Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025
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Personally I don't think so. Every time I download and install from an Windows ISO it seems worse. Right out of the bat there is a page where you need to uncheck all the spyware crap and there are so many it scrolls. They also make it so a normal local user is presented like a somewhat inferior experience than their web login. Then you have to fill in obligatory 3 recovery questions even if you are confident in your…
Our IT has given us deployment sticks for W10 Pro which format/install/deploy the OS using one script in about 5 minutes with zero nags/prompts anything else. It also sets up a default (non-cloud) user. I think its called an 'unattended' setup. So it definitely can be done. I think MS needs to provide a "Yes, I know what I'm doing, go away" Windows ISO.
Could you please elaborate on how that usb stick was made? :-)
Time to time I need to do some Windows config/deployment – shortcuts, printers, make the damned NumLock ON, set those PDFs to open NOT in that ducked Edge;) and so on ..
But this is not my top skill and after googling for some time I’d kill for a spot on advice.
Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Personally I don't think so. Every time I download and install from an Windows ISO it seems worse. Right out of the bat there is a page where you need to uncheck all the spyware crap and there are so many it scrolls. They also make it so a normal local user is presented like a somewhat inferior experience than their web login. Then you have to fill in obligatory 3 recovery questions even if you are confident in your…
There was even one release of Windows 10 Home where you couldn't create a local account, unless you tricked it by not connecting to a network. Not sure if this is still the case with current builds or if they came to their senses. And good luck if you did create one and you also happen to use Office 365, because now you have two Microsoft accounts, possibly with the same email address, that use the same login page, a…
Yeah, that's still the case.
Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025
#168I'll be honest. I kinda lost track of windows, android, iOS versions at some point. And I think that's probably ok... I use it, it works, there ya go. Most everything I do really isn't OS dependent. I do fondly remember the days when OS upgrades was a huge change. I'll always fondly think of the Rolling Stone's "Start Me Up" and trying out OS/2 and various Linux flavors and so on. I used to spend HOURS customizing my…
Personally I don't think so. Every time I download and install from an Windows ISO it seems worse. Right out of the bat there is a page where you need to uncheck all the spyware crap and there are so many it scrolls. They also make it so a normal local user is presented like a somewhat inferior experience than their web login. Then you have to fill in obligatory 3 recovery questions even if you are confident in your…
> Personally I don't think so. Every time I download and install from an Windows ISO it seems worse.
I’ve just been in a dark pit while trying to get a thunderbolt to sfp+ adapter working with ESXi. I ended up updating it via Windows but also tested it in various Ubuntu versions and macOS.
Both Windows and Ubuntu install processes were great compared to my very distant memory of install processes - Windows was finicky about the state of the drive it went onto and didn’t want to be on an external drive, but that was it.
The application Microsoft has made for creating boot disks is really nice. Apple in particular could learn a thing or two.
Drivers though, my god. If the driver isn’t signed by Microsoft, it is a horror in Windows.
Never got the dongle going in Esxi, it worked perfectly out the box for Apple and nearly the same for Ubuntu (though has to be unplugged and replugged after a reboot, and required manual config of mtu and network parameters. DHCP wouldn’t stick).
I got full functionality from Windows after a series of driver updates, interspaced with firmware updates and removal of security checks.
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The only thing I really notice is the settings ... app, box, thing, (not sure what to call it even) is wonky. Seems to get wonky-er all the time. But I'm hardly ever in there. That's really the major change I notice. The little UI changes in menu or task bar I find easy enough to just adjust and so forth whenever I need to do so. Mostly I just turn them off and doing so doesn't really bother me.
That reminds me there are two control panels. One with the trendy web page style (the pretty one) and the other using the old Windows 7 style (the useful control panel). And I suspect they know its terrible. What other reason would they reserve the the good stuff like the LTSC version to premium enterprise contracts? People who purchase and run Windows Pro and Windows Home are literally paying to feed the monstrous M…
The old style control panel is part of the Windows api, if they drop it they’ll break things like mouse drivers that often add tabs to the dialogs.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Our IT has given us deployment sticks for W10 Pro which format/install/deploy the OS using one script in about 5 minutes with zero nags/prompts anything else. It also sets up a default (non-cloud) user. I think its called an 'unattended' setup. So it definitely can be done. I think MS needs to provide a "Yes, I know what I'm doing, go away" Windows ISO.
Could you please elaborate on how that usb stick was made? :-) Time to time I need to do some Windows config/deployment – shortcuts, printers, make the damned NumLock ON, set those PDFs to open NOT in that ducked Edge;) and so on .. But this is not my top skill and after googling for some time I’d kill for a spot on advice.
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