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Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines

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Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines

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COVID induced myocarditis has been thoroughly disproven: https://www.statnews.com/2021/05/14/setting-the-record-strai...

The child of a friend of my girlfriend developed COVID myocarditis. He'll have heart problems for the rest of his life now. He's a child. This is why nothing less than total lockdown will do, even for a disease with a 99.97% survival rate -- at what cost comes survival?

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Very interesting given one of the lesser known complications of covid can be myocarditis in otherwise healthy individuals with few or no other covid symptoms. In fact, it’s likely the incidence of covid-induced myocarditis is vastly underreported given it often shows no symptoms and can only reasonably be diagnosed with a cardiac MRI which is not always widely available or advised for less-serious heart conditions. I…

>second dose There has been some discussion on that:

Delaying a Covid vaccine’s second dose boosts immune response https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27156859

Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines

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I definitely had this: got the first shot and felt confident, cocksure that I would have no symptoms at all being healthy and young. Woke up during the night ~8 hours after the first shot feeling a little out of breath, with strong and almost painful heartbeats. I chalked it up to being stressed, but found it strange as I had zero reasons to be stressed that particular week. I connected the dots the next day when I still had this feeling, and talked to a doctor in the family who said it was probably heart inflammation, and actually not that uncommon after the vaccine or covid infection.

I'm still glad I got vaccinated, but given that heart disease is the #1 cause of death worldwide, I'm surprised the ramifications of heart inflammation aren't taken more seriously (if the heart was permanently damaged in a small way, I'd expect it to manifest many years later).

Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines

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Pretty sure i had this after my second dose of moderna. On the day of my second dose I had a very unique piercing heart pain i never experienced before, thought i was gonna die. Had some arrhythmia/palpitations as well, but didn't go to the doctor or report it, I'm sure many more people experienced this without reporting it, just hope it doesn't cause permanent damage. (31, male)

Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines

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meanwhile the many experts who don't recommend it are widely and very vocally shunned as 'science deniers'. Andddd downvoted. Cant even point out that there are actual experts on both sides of the argument without people being upset about it.

There will be experts, that is people with relevant credentials, on both sides of every issue, but that doesn't mean they always ought to be listened to. They are being heavily criticized here because the science _overwhelmingly_ supports vaccination.

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Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines

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Did anyone else get really bad side effects? I felt awful after my first shot and now I an currently recovering from my second shot and feel even worse. I don’t think I have ever felt this bad from an illness.

There is a relatively high rate (fully acknowledged) of high fever from the MRNA vaccines, particularly after the second dose. Compared to standard vaccines of the past, the rate of fever and illness is dramatically higher. But COVID is so dangerous and contagious that the benefit is higher than the cost. I say this as somebody (if you look at some of my previous comments) who lost my Mother-in-law due to a rare side…

It’s alarming that I keep hearing about people who have lost people from a vaccine. It’s now at a higher rate than the virus itself. I’m awaiting Pfizer but I’m quite concerned.

Which vaccine did she take?

Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines

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Anecdote: I had this reaction to the 2nd dose of the Pfizer vaccine, saw a cardiologist and she mentioned that she’s been seeing this quite a bit after the second dose. Have had to lay low for a month, but it seems like the symptoms are finally passing.

I wanted to avoid the second dose but ended up getting it anyways... hope they don't rush vaccine approvals again... might be good in the short run, but if issues come up, it might be bad in the long run.

Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines

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I have also been experiencing irregular heart beat and palpitations. Quite possible that I had COVID at some point.

Have you been exercising less since lockdowns started?

I never really exercised much. But heart palpitations are something new, been noticing it for the last few months.

Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines

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The interesting table with absolute numbers is on page 18 of [0]. Expected and observed cases are cases of myocarditis / pericarditis here. Crude rate is the number of cases per 1 million administered doses. Use landscape mode if you are reading this from a mobile device, the table is narrow enough for that. Age group Doses Crude Expected Observed administ. rate cases cases 12–15 yrs 134,041 22.4 0–1 2 16–17 yrs 2,25…

That's about the same rate as clots in AstraZeneca's vaccine.

So if I'm reading this correctly - that means about 1 in 90,000 people are getting myocarditis that otherwise you wouldn't expect to get myocarditis from the vaccine.

Is that correct, and if so, is that a big deal?

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