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Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by neither_color »

bengale wrote: post #258
eloisius wrote: post #254

If I could ask Apple for one thing it would be to require approval of every push notification that an app developer wants to deliver. That an app gets either cart blanche to send me notifications or nothing at all drives me crazy. I don't want to miss a notification that my delivery food arrived, but I don't want to be bombarded with daily advertising messages from foodpanda trying to get me to change my behavior. Re…

Something really should be done about this. The food delivery apps are worst for this, they seem to know you can't turn alerts off without losing a key feature, but then use it to advertise. They should be made to split this out so you can turn one off without the other. I'd love to customise the alert level for news apps. I would leave on actually important breaking news, but I have to turn it all off because they b…

I get around this by only enabling notifications when I order food, and then disabling notifications after delivery. It's a few extra steps but worth the serenity.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by sonofhans »

eloisius wrote: post #254

If I could ask Apple for one thing it would be to require approval of every push notification that an app developer wants to deliver. That an app gets either cart blanche to send me notifications or nothing at all drives me crazy. I don't want to miss a notification that my delivery food arrived, but I don't want to be bombarded with daily advertising messages from foodpanda trying to get me to change my behavior. Re…

Ooh, I agree. Amazon does this, too. I had notifications enabled in their mobile app for a while. I work in a cottage behind my house, so it’s useful to get a notification when something’s delivered.

Sure enough, after about half a dozen deliveries they started spamming me with promo messages as well. I quickly turned off notifications.

As usual, spammers ruin everything.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by unethical_ban »

Crazyontap wrote: post #49

Even though this article is sarcastic(?) I can't help but get genuinely angry at these trillion dollar companies thinking they know what is better for us and trying to control and police everything. This is even worse than govt censoring porn and cuss-words back in the day thinking they know what is moral for the society. I was just talking to a friend the other day on how badly Apple and Google are trying their best…

What a weird take. It completely ignores the massive impact that addictive apps have on people, how incapable governments are at regulating malicious/predatory behavior by companies like Facebook and others, and those tradeoffs.

This article is actually genius, and I truly believe they're good recommendations. Apple in these mockups wouldn't be forcing you to turn off addictive behaviors - it's just letting you know they exist, and giving YOU the power to help control it.

The jist of your post is that you want the freedom to smoke cigarettes without the oppressive government health warnings on the packages.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by perryizgr8 »

eropple wrote: post #396
anchpop wrote: post #322

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A difference is that there's a unified UI for disabling channels, and app developers don't have to do anything except annotate each notification with the channel it belongs to and list the channels somewhere in their manifest (IIRC). If you get a notification you don't like, you long long-press it and a menu appears showing you the different notification channels and prompting you to enable or disable them.

I haven't used Android in a while. What stops a developer from not categorizing notifications and effectively saying "oh they're all General notifications, ha ha ha, you can't get the thing you want without all the slop"?

Bad apps do this. Some even create a new channel for each individual notification so you can't possibly block it. Except for a blanket ban which you can always do. So it does depend on the developers goodwill.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by DrBenCarson »

sonofhans wrote: post #402
eloisius wrote: post #254

If I could ask Apple for one thing it would be to require approval of every push notification that an app developer wants to deliver. That an app gets either cart blanche to send me notifications or nothing at all drives me crazy. I don't want to miss a notification that my delivery food arrived, but I don't want to be bombarded with daily advertising messages from foodpanda trying to get me to change my behavior. Re…

Ooh, I agree. Amazon does this, too. I had notifications enabled in their mobile app for a while. I work in a cottage behind my house, so it’s useful to get a notification when something’s delivered. Sure enough, after about half a dozen deliveries they started spamming me with promo messages as well. I quickly turned off notifications. As usual, spammers ruin everything.

Try https://shop.app it’s absolutely great for the use case you described! You can even login to Amazon directly from the iOS shop app.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by SergeAx »

squiggleblaz wrote: post #216
plater wrote: post #175

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Yes, because it's based on a PC. A quite standard and open specification where you can buy motherboards, CPU, RAM, disk, IO peripherals etc from many different manufacturers and build and install what software you want. However, on a Mac, you cannot install or change the hardware as you like, you cannot install what software you want. If Linus Torvalds was a teen today and there was no open PC standard, only a Mac, t…

> If Linus Torvalds was a teen today and there was no open PC standard, only a Mac, then it would not have been possible to create Linux the way it is today. Torvalds didn't create Linux as a teen in his bedroom hacking on what he had. He created it at university studying operating systems. He would have created it on Raspberry Pi or some other platform. Linux is widely deployed on x86 because x86 is available and op…

> He would have created it on Raspberry Pi

Raspberry Pi would be unable without Linux.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by drewg123 »

eloisius wrote: post #254

If I could ask Apple for one thing it would be to require approval of every push notification that an app developer wants to deliver. That an app gets either cart blanche to send me notifications or nothing at all drives me crazy. I don't want to miss a notification that my delivery food arrived, but I don't want to be bombarded with daily advertising messages from foodpanda trying to get me to change my behavior. Re…

The food apps are so bad that I typically uninstall them when they send me a spammy notification, and then re-install them when I need to use them again.

The natural outcome of this is that the first app which does NOT send me spam will be the one on my phone when I want to order food, and will be the one I actually use.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by Tagbert »

alickz wrote: post #300
eloisius wrote: post #254

If I could ask Apple for one thing it would be to require approval of every push notification that an app developer wants to deliver. That an app gets either cart blanche to send me notifications or nothing at all drives me crazy. I don't want to miss a notification that my delivery food arrived, but I don't want to be bombarded with daily advertising messages from foodpanda trying to get me to change my behavior. Re…

>I don't want to miss a notification that my delivery food arrived, but I don't want to be bombarded with daily advertising messages from foodpanda trying to get me to change my behavior. This is exactly what the Android notification channels allow you to do, and it actually works really well. For UberEats I have the Delivery notification channel enabled, but the Marketing channel disabled. It's really the best of bo…

Apple has made changes in the upcoming iOS 15 where apps have to categorize their notifications into categories like “marketing” and functional categories. Users can then use the more granular controls to block notification categories either for all apps or app by app. This can also be mapped into the new Focus modes where users can setup different modes such a “work”, “sleep”, “driving”, etc. Different apps can be allowed or blocked in different focus modes.

https://techcrunch.com/2021/06/07/apple-refines-ios-15-notif...

https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/09/how-to-use-iphone-focus-mode-...

[added additional external reference]

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by handrous »

sodality2 wrote: post #329
scyzoryk_xyz wrote: post #231

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That’s because the internet is no longer a walk through the woods. It’s now a stumble through a confusing poorly-lit casino.

Reminds me of the song, "Welcome to the Internet": "Could I interest you in everything All of the time A bit of everything All of the time Apathy's a tragedy And boredom is a crime Anything and everything All of the time"

This features in Bo Burnham's latest comedy special (though with Burnham, maybe comedy belongs in scare-quotes, since his last two specials have leaned much harder on wry commentary than actual laugh-out-loud humor) produced largely on his own and filmed almost entirely in what looks to be a one-room guest house of his. It's on Netflix and I'm sure the part with that song is on YouTube somewhere (hahaha).

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by natedubyah »

Im interested to know if the preliminary thoughts of these new ios features were at any all influenced by the pandemic, theres a-lot of stuff that would have been really cool during that time that is now rolling out.
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