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What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour
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#72I would rather pay someone to hack my car so I don't have to pay per hour.
Market price is about $2200
Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe that's just not the resource efficient way going forward. Maybe in the future people will laugh at the idea of buying 2 tons of steel to sit around doing nothing for 95% of it's lifetime.
Not GP but I feel that renting/subscribing everything doesn't feel very secure. I'd like to believe a "rentier" future will empower renters with even cheaper options due to efficiency of utility. As you say, having a big chunk of capability sit there most of the time is wasteful in a sense. However it also feels like it entrenches the rich with further options of rent-seeking. And it doesn't take much cynicism to thi…
If you look at tool rental, it's usually cheaper to buy the tool at somewhere between a few days and a week of rental time. I don't expect any efficiencies to end up with the renter.
It's so bad that it was cheaper for me to buy a wide format printer than it was to pay a print shop for prints to submit to the planning department.
Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour
#74This would be ideal for myself. I spend $1500/year on insurance and about $1000 in gas on a car I barely ever drive. I am slow to get ready and leave the house as well. If this thing could just show up at my doorstep and drive me to the grocery store and back every couple of weeks for a few dollars that would be incredible! Plus I don't have to make smalltalk with a driver, bonus! Not to mention the space I would sav…
> $1000 in gas on a car I barely ever drive
I wouldn't call $20 a week in gas "barely driving".
Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour
#75This would be ideal for myself. I spend $1500/year on insurance and about $1000 in gas on a car I barely ever drive. I am slow to get ready and leave the house as well. If this thing could just show up at my doorstep and drive me to the grocery store and back every couple of weeks for a few dollars that would be incredible! Plus I don't have to make smalltalk with a driver, bonus! Not to mention the space I would sav…
The costs are just to enable the feature on the fly in the car you already own, so you will still need to buy gas and insurance.
Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour
#76Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tesla's status on this is really controversial. Some people think that Tesla's sheer data advantage will put them way ahead soon and that it's imminent. On the other hand, Waymo is doing pretty well on most trips (admittedly within a small geofenced zone that has friendly weather -- you can watch oodles of video from jjricks on real trips here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61AfxOMu3wY )
I actually have watched a number of his videos, and while it is considerably better than the Tesla self driving, it's not something I'd currently pay to experience vs driving myself (or vs an Uber at a similar price point). The driving style is still too awkward and, to me, discomfiting.
Ah, to me it looks pretty good. And there's reason to believe it'd be better on freeways.
I'd definitely pay a few bucks per hour for my car to drive me to Southern California while I read a book.
Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour
#78I just wish we would bring back car trains. I like driving. I want to drive. There are some incredible roads in the places I go to, and I want to drive on them. However, I don’t care much for the long motorway drives through Europe that I need to do to take me to the interesting places. I want to drive my car on to a train in Kraków, hang out in the restaurant for several hours, and then drive off the train in Gdańsk…
I guess you're talking about a physical, actual train, but it would be cool to tack onto the back of a conga line of cars, and let some AI take over maintaining the gap and alignment with the vehicle in front, while grabbing a nap.
I am indeed talking about an actual physical train. Many trains have restaurants, bedrooms, and bathrooms, and passengers can stretch their legs and walk around during their journey. That of course is not feasible with a car.
Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour
#79This won't happen an VW hopes. Once self driving is achieved, it will eventually be a commodity, you will just pay 200$ on a box on your car and you will have self driving.
This isn't my idea, came from listening some geohot interview but I think he is spot on.
Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour
#80With that pricepoint, maybe you don't need to implement actual autonomous driving, but instead it could be implemented by employing millions of dronepilots in some far away country that drive your car for you.
latency might be an issue though
How is this solved for military drone pilots that do precision bombings in far away countries?