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Re: There are no results for tank man

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The FAQs also say a mod can remove the flag if it's unfair...which it is. Yet it hasn't been removed.

Ok, I've removed it. Now people will accuse us of rewriting history, but that's ok - one eventually makes peace with the fact that there's no way to win.

danged if you do, danged if you don't

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Why not. A human was asked to fulfill a request to block the "tank man" search in China and forgot to add the country restriction. There is no way to know if it is true, but it is definitely possible. This is probably an interface that isn't used incredibly frequently and may not be as polished as one might hope.

We certainly know that explantation isn't true because they are continuing to censor the results after "fixing it". Searching "tank man" now gets you images of tanks and men and not the iconic image. We know they could get it right if they wanted to because the non-image search for the phrase works.

The iconic image comes up for me, could just be rolling out to massive infrastructure takes a hot minute

Re: There are no results for tank man

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I'm guessing it is a "hand tuned" search result tweak because just appending "china" returns a few images: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tank%20man%20china (For those who don't see results, this is my screen grab of the above at 18:12 UTC : https://imgur.com/a/3tzPV49 ) Also, "Tiananmen Square massacre" still returns some image results: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Tiananmen+Square+massac... Therefore,…

Adding "tiananmen square" to "tank man" does return the photo as the 3rd result: tank man tiananmen square Also, the misspelled version of Tianenmen that I first used worked as well.

OTOH "tank man tiananmen" is also censored. It's pretty clear that there are some specific queries being mishandled here.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Yandex, the english language version of the Russian search engine, does not censor anything. It's by far the best search engine for politically controversial topics. You can even search for Putin stuff and get good results. https://yandex.com/images/search?from=tabbar&text=tank%20man

Russian version surely has its filters.

Probably, but different ones. This is somewhat reminiscent of the old advice (which I could swear was Schneier’s, but can’t seem to actually find) to layer ciphers developed by mutually hostile countries, seeing as it’s highly unlikely the same actor would know how to break (e.g.) US, Chinese, and Russian crypto simultaneously even if each of those can be broken by their origin country.

Although I have to note that I’m not aware of any censorship in Yandex web search, unlike for example Yandex News where pretty blatant examples occur regularly—but Yandex News is pretty irrelevant outside ex-USSR anyway. Except for apparently socially acceptable censorship like that engendered by “right to be forgotten” laws and DMCA, of course.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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post #364

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Is there any valuable connection between the users that flagged the original post that might be interesting? Not looking for specifics, since I imagine that's secret, but wondering how much of it really was standard behavior versus something else.

The flagging history of all the users who flagged that post was very consistent. There was no connection to any specific topic (nor between the accounts, that I could see). Rather, they have previously flagged stories about things like cryptocurrency, ransomware, covid lockdowns, $BigCo flamewars, and lots and lots of scandals involving such subjects as Florida, Katie Hill, and the Chicago Police Department. Also, mo…

Sounds like you're saying it was flagged because veteran users knew it would be a shit show which it is. lol

Re: There are no results for tank man

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post #197

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Don't we all know that the CCP employs agents to flag critical content. Do we have any reason to think said agents aren't active here?

I don't think this sort of baseless speculation is useful. God forbid a Chinese citizen support their own government without being an agent or brainwashed. Way to deny a billion people the agency to disagree with you. Flagged this comment; US citizen, btw

OP didn't say that there aren't any Chinese citizens who genuinely support their own government - only that said government is well-known for organized brigading by its agents. Including in China itself, I must add, so it affects plenty of Chinese citizens, too.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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In related corporate censorship, the Top Gun remake altered the physical leather jacket worn by Tom Cruise to remove the flags of Taiwan and Japan. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/top-gun-...

Lol why Japan

They are not really friends since https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War

Re: There are no results for tank man

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post #72

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This post is on the front page right now (edit: and now also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27396783 ) - that's the opposite of "disappearing". I'd have to see links to the other ones. Here's one tip for you guys, from years-long, world-weary experience: if you're coming up with sensational explanations in breathless excitement, it's almost certainly untrue. Edit: ok, here's what happened. Users flagged https:/…

Oh, you have multiple mods now? I thought it was just you, after sctb left.

The situation hasn't changed since Scott left; it's just that we were the only two public mods so now I'm the only public one.
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