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Re: There are no results for tank man

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The CCP seems to be quite good at practical censorship. They have a history of this - they know the Great Firewall isn't perfect, and don't seem to make a tremendous effort to plug every single hole or find and lock up everyone trying to circumvent it. They know that controlling what most people see most of the time is good enough. They also know that not making too much clear direct effort against those trying to bypass it denies the anti-censorship movement the energy of having martyrs, cause celebres, etc. It seems to work quite well.

I think they're doing the same thing here. Just take an amount of money that's rather modest in the budget of a major government, throw it at 90% of the biggest companies with a few strings attached, and presto, you effectively control the narratives in the American News Media. Most of the companies involved lapped it right up.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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post #46

I'm guessing it is a "hand tuned" search result tweak because just appending "china" returns a few images: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tank%20man%20china (For those who don't see results, this is my screen grab of the above at 18:12 UTC : https://imgur.com/a/3tzPV49 ) Also, "Tiananmen Square massacre" still returns some image results: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Tiananmen+Square+massac... Therefore,…

Even searching for tank woman or tank cat returns results!

Re: There are no results for tank man

#63

Elsewhere on HackerNews there are discussions about how GDPR regulations affect the internet entirely - not just in the EU. And there are famous examples how California environmental regulations bring up the quality of products US-wide so everyone benefits from safety and consumer protections not just people in california. In both cases, this is because it's easier to just have ONE version of a product if your market…

> At what point do companies that have to censor information for [local] audience decide it's just less of a hassle to have the same censorship apply blanketly world-wide?

This has already happened. The U.S. has much more strict standards regarding nudity than the rest of the world in general, but the world has largely adopted U.S. norms, and nudity is now censored worldwide. So much for multi-culturalism.

Re: There are no results for tank man

#66
Yandex, the english language version of the Russian search engine, does not censor anything. It's by far the best search engine for politically controversial topics. You can even search for Putin stuff and get good results.

https://yandex.com/images/search?from=tabbar&text=tank%20man

Re: There are no results for tank man

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post #45

@dang, I think we need an explanation for why Tank Man-related content on Hacker News has been disappearing all day. I usually trust HN to be a bastion of free speech, and if there isn't some kind of proportionate response here, I don't believe myself or many others here will be able to see it that way going forward. EDIT: Thank you for your response, dang. Hacker News is a special place, which is why we have respond…

HN, time for an explanation. This is not trivial.

Re: There are no results for tank man

#68

It doesn't really surprise me that bing does this - I'm more disappointed that HN censored the original post ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27394925 ). Feel like that's totally against our values.

Unknown Protester and Unknown Rebel does show some Bing image results that are relevant.

Re: There are no results for tank man

#69
Interestingly, they didn't just block the query string, it appears that they purged their image results based on some generalization of tank man. I noticed that "tiennamin square man" doesn't return any pictures of the scene. However, the purge didn't hit the "suggested image" thumbnails.
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