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Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by y04nn »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #186
wait_a_minute wrote: post #15

This needs to be upvoted to the top so that we get some answers as to why this well-known history is not searchable via such a major tech company’s search functionality. It’s the top result via Google, why is Bing so bad at this?

Google doesn't have a search engine in China, and Bing does have a search engine in China.

Should not Bing have a separate/dedicated search engine in China? Does Bing has to censure US/World results from a well know fact to be allowed to operate in China? Because I have some difficulties to understand why Bing is censuring such fact outside the Great Firewall of China.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by cyborgx7 »

binbag wrote: post #249
binarymax wrote: post #211

This confirms that, although not obvious when searching, Duck Duck Go is displaying image results from Bing. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tank+man&atb=v228-1&iar=images&iax...

Wow, I didn't know this. Is this well known??

DuckDuckGo has always been open about using the Bing Index https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/so...

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by 60secz »

beached_whale wrote: post #228
digbybk wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if one of the most famous photographs ever taken wasn't called "tank man", it'd still be pretty weird for there to zero results. Try misspelling "man" or "tank", you'll get many results. "tanke man" says "including results for 'tank man'".

Or "tank man Tiananmen square" results in results. Still kind of odd, this takes duck duck go with it too.

"tank man Tiananmen" returns none. fishy

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by iso1631 »

partiallypro wrote: post #248
iso1631 wrote: post #213

https://twitter.com/MikaelThalen/status/1400906032176640004 A Microsoft spokesperson tells me that "accidental human error" is to blame for missing images of "tank man" on its Bing search results. "We are actively working to resolve this." The incident comes on the 32nd anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre.

There's no way it was accidental. It could have been a rogue employee that pushed something globally that was supposed to be limited to China...but the idea that it was an accident on the anniversary sounds like a made up story.

Or it could have been a normal employee that ticked the "censor everywhere" box rather than "censor china"

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by tptacek »

kragen wrote: post #221
tptacek wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole sentiment here is gross, but it is particularly fucked up how you keep going out of your way to pull Chinese-American people into it. Why not call me a Papist while you're at it?

If you post a story on HN with a list of historical atrocities attributable to the Roman Catholic Church or to Spanish colonialism, you can definitely expect a significant fraction of Latin American and Spanish people to take exception to it, and I've seen that happen on HN several times in the past. Recognizing and understanding that there are hot-button issues for particular political, national, and ethnic groups i…

I stand by what I wrote, including what I deleted, but I don't want to feed this any further.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by dredmorbius »

idbehold wrote: post #177
crazygringo wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't doubt posts are flagged by users as opposed to moderation. But at the same time, it also seems like flagging can be too easily abused, and can lead to accusations of censorship and distrust. (Though I've certainly seen it work well in cases, especially for false/defamatory articles.) But it really does seem like we're at the point where longstanding users need to also be able to vouch for flagged stories, or…

Another approach is to penalize users (e.g. stop trusting their flags) who flagged a post which then got unflagged by a mod.

It's possible to email the mods vouching for stories (or comments). I do this fairly frequently. Not (yet) in this case, though there was a politically-tinged story earlier this week that I alerted mods on.

What's particularly insidious is that killed stories both don't show up in Algolia search results (this is somewhat understandable, but in the case of political flagging, problematic), and even where favourited (something I also do with some regularity), may not be visible to non-logged-in users and IIRC actually disappear from the index in time.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by thebigspacefuck »

CoolGuySteve wrote: post #8

Hmmm, DuckDuckGo image search shows some people standing next to tanks but not the tank man photo. I guess it makes sense since DDG uses bing for their search tech but it's pretty disappointing that you can get uncensored searches or privacy but not both.

I tried turning safe search off and got some images of Tank Man

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by ccsnags »

dude187 wrote: post #230
nbardy wrote: post #90

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We were told the same thing about the lab leak theory from: Social media companies, Mainstream media, and the government. The reason for distrust is valid. We live in an age of rapidly increasing censorship and the CCPs growing reach of control in American discourse. Skepticism is becoming the default for very real reasons.

Exactly. Discourse has become censored almost compltely on a large number of non "fact checker approved" views over the last year. Reddit bans permanently over it all over, now Twitter. Facebook gets a lot of the blame but sadly it seems like my the only place my conservative friends have a voice. This trend of "stop Asian hate" is also not organic. It's designed to use the "your racist" Trump card to shut down any t…

Anyone can do this stuff. Cut a good promo that feeds into the internalized mythology of the target audience and you can get them to believe in it without a hint of skepticism.

As far as organic or not, it doesn’t really matter. People need to have an immune system for nonsense, especially it feels right. Most people can spot nonsense that goes against their own worldview. The trick is to be able to spot nonsense that is aligned with your worldview or you could directly benefit from if true.

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