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Re: There are no results for tank man

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Wow I didn't realize this, but it appears to be true: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC "Microsoft divested itself of its stakes in the MSNBC channel in 2005 and in msnbc.com in July 2012." I thought their Edge browser was still promoting links to MSNBC, but looking at Edge now, I see the links are to MSN.com which is a completely different thing and actually a Microsoft news portal. Interesting the news channel is…

When you've spent millions and years promoting a brand ID, you don't change it just because ownership changed. (Another example: If I understand correctly, General Electric doesn't have anything to do with GE-branded light bulbs. They sold the business. But the buyer wanted more than the factory and the distribution arrangements, they wanted the name that people recognized.)

And just to bring it all full-circle in this thread, albeit a slightly different direction:

NBC's chime was developed when it was owned by GE in the 1930s (the notes are G-E-C – General Electric Company). When GE sold its interest, that chime continued to be used.

GE later regained control of NBC, and once again sold the last of its interest to Comcast a few years ago. But the G-E-C jingle remains unchanged, the first audio trademark granted in the US.

Re: There are no results for tank man

#252

Since these pages will likely be updated, here are the archived links as proof of this happening: https://web.archive.org/web/20210604192821/https://www.bing.... https://web.archive.org/web/20210604180506/https://images.se... https://web.archive.org/web/20210604194355/https://www.ecosi... https://web.archive.org/web/20210604194336/https://search.ao... Some people probably think "nobody uses Bing", but Bing powers a l…

Looks like it has now been updated and returns images of various tanks and male athletes, but still no images of what seems most relevant to the phrase - the iconic Tiananmen Square photograph that goes by that name.

Re: There are no results for tank man

#253
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I'm guessing it is a "hand tuned" search result tweak because just appending "china" returns a few images: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tank%20man%20china (For those who don't see results, this is my screen grab of the above at 18:12 UTC : https://imgur.com/a/3tzPV49 ) Also, "Tiananmen Square massacre" still returns some image results: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Tiananmen+Square+massac... Therefore,…

It's the 6th result for "tank guy" for me. "china protest man tank" also gets it. "Tiananmen square" doesn't autocomplete on bing either, for "some reason"... It's surprising and shameful to me that Microsoft would be censoring so brazenly even in US search results. Also embarrassing on a technical level that their censorship is this bad. It's also pretty bad at image search compared to Google (compare Google Images…

I, for one, am glad that this particular Microsoft censorship is global in nature for all to see.

A lot of people say China's internet censorship doesn't matter because it's mainly/just within their own borders, and anyone in China can and does just use a VPN to get outside. While the latter might be true, it misses the point - China is doing a great job of making self-censorship about a number of their sensitive topics a global phenomenon.

Re: There are no results for tank man

#254

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dang 27 minutes ago [–] [flagged] on submissions nearly always means users flagged it. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#flag https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397158

The FAQs also say a mod can remove the flag if it's unfair...which it is. Yet it hasn't been removed.

They now would be tagged as [dupe] and still removed.

Re: There are no results for tank man

#256

Since these pages will likely be updated, here are the archived links as proof of this happening: https://web.archive.org/web/20210604192821/https://www.bing.... https://web.archive.org/web/20210604180506/https://images.se... https://web.archive.org/web/20210604194355/https://www.ecosi... https://web.archive.org/web/20210604194336/https://search.ao... Some people probably think "nobody uses Bing", but Bing powers a l…

I saw results (none of actual tank man) but I searched again a few times and still see no results found.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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post #149

Why is something connected to tech, and uncovering an important ethical bias and issue, being flagged? With no transparency about the reasons, nonetheless.

If you mean flagged on HN, there's great transparency about the reasons: users can flag whatever they want.

They should implement a system like Slashdot had in which you'd only get certain abilities if you had enough contribution points. That would prevent random accounts from flagging things when their account is only 5 points, etc. Also, the admins have the ability to remove the flag but haven't, which I find baffling/troubling. Everyone wants part of the Chinese cookie it seems.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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From some old comments, I remember that there is a "voting ring" detector. (The details are obscure, because it's part of the secret sauce or something.) I guess there is also a "flagging brigade" detector. [If not, I upgrade this comment to a feature request.]

Let's say you have 5,000 to 10,000 accounts who semi-regularly post as "normal looking" accounts with other activity, how many of those have to downvote/flag a post to knock it out of front page? Not many I gather.

Considering the upvote count even the hot rising posts on front page have. I would assume the flag threshold to be quite small. I don't know if each flag vote counts the same or does it depend on karma/account age, but at least from upvotes I would assume you would need less than 50 flags to pull even a hot story. So, paid influence ops should easily succeed in HN; whether they have even bothered with HN because of small audience size, that I don't know.

In most cases it is the politics aspect or the unfair coverage aspect that leads users to flag a story, like say on lab leaks; but this story being flagged so easily was interesting. It is about a tech platform intentionally/mistakenly censoring things we will count as free speech.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Since these pages will likely be updated, here are the archived links as proof of this happening: https://web.archive.org/web/20210604192821/https://www.bing.... https://web.archive.org/web/20210604180506/https://images.se... https://web.archive.org/web/20210604194355/https://www.ecosi... https://web.archive.org/web/20210604194336/https://search.ao... Some people probably think "nobody uses Bing", but Bing powers a l…

Looks like it has now been updated and returns images of various tanks and male athletes, but still no images of what seems most relevant to the phrase - the iconic Tiananmen Square photograph that goes by that name.

I noticed the same thing:

It looks like microsoft caught on and is now returning generic results of "tank" or "man":

https://imgur.com/sGEQRXe

https://imgur.com/DjtXltn

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