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Re: There are no results for tank man

#181

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only for comments, not stories

Also for submissions (Maybe the karma threshold is different, but i do see it)

for me it's there for [dead] stories, but not [flagged] ones

[dead]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397440 (has vouch)

[flagged]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27396685 (no vouch)

Re: There are no results for tank man

#182

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I don't doubt posts are flagged by users as opposed to moderation. But at the same time, it also seems like flagging can be too easily abused, and can lead to accusations of censorship and distrust. (Though I've certainly seen it work well in cases, especially for false/defamatory articles.) But it really does seem like we're at the point where longstanding users need to also be able to vouch for flagged stories, or…

"But it really does seem like we're at the point where longstanding users need to also be able to vouch for flagged stories, or something like that." Isn't this already a thing with the "vouch" button on said posts? https://i.imgur.com/Hp9nu58.png

By the time a story needs to be vouched for, it loses the momentum it previously had gettting it to the front page. So you need a way to prevent vouching from being necessary in the first place.

Re: There are no results for tank man

#183

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users flag posts in almost all circumstances. too many users flagged it. HN isn't policed by its admins except in extremely rare cases.

and santa claus exists

I actually believe in dang a fair amount more than I believe in Santa Claus.

Re: There are no results for tank man

#184

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I don't doubt posts are flagged by users as opposed to moderation. But at the same time, it also seems like flagging can be too easily abused, and can lead to accusations of censorship and distrust. (Though I've certainly seen it work well in cases, especially for false/defamatory articles.) But it really does seem like we're at the point where longstanding users need to also be able to vouch for flagged stories, or…

Another approach is to penalize users (e.g. stop trusting their flags) who flagged a post which then got unflagged by a mod.

I have a flag on my platform that flags users who reported things I agreed with the removal of, as "trusted" and their reports are given more weight in the algorithm next time. Sort of the inverse of what you propose where everyone is somewhat untrusted by default. (But not entirely untrusted.)

Re: There are no results for tank man

#185
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This is gross.

There is nothing gross in my comment, tptacek. Your comment, by contrast, amounts to a slanderous innuendo.

> There is nothing gross in my comment, tptacek

“Gross” is subjective, so that’s a legitimate viewpoint.

Your comment is overtly, expressly, racist though. For those who find racism gross, its also gross. Obviously, YMMV.

> Your comment, by contrast, amounts to a slanderous innuendo.

I don't think you understand either slander or innuendo if you believe that.

Re: There are no results for tank man

#186

This needs to be upvoted to the top so that we get some answers as to why this well-known history is not searchable via such a major tech company’s search functionality. It’s the top result via Google, why is Bing so bad at this?

Google doesn't have a search engine in China, and Bing does have a search engine in China.

Re: There are no results for tank man

#187
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"Political" or "controversial" content is always^H^H^H^H sometimes punished by HN (sorry, dang). While I think this is a highly questionable policy which is itself political in nature (reinforcing as it does the status quo), it need not be specific to China. A statement would certainly be nice, however.

I did notice it the past that HN articles critical of China behaved in a strange way. In the past all the comments in the comment section were downvoted, sometimes you could see dozens of comments greyed out, every single one of them. (Probably because it's not possible to downvote an article). Now the articles are flagged, probably whoever was organising this realised that flagging an article is effectively downvoti…

I've downvoted everyone in an entire thread before. Not because I'm a member of a shadowy organization (otherwise I'd be blowing my cover posting this) but because all of them were really bad. HN being HN, usually someone will take the time to write a good comment, but especially on emotionally charged topics, the earliest comments will be both short and just a reflection of the posters views before they read the article (if they read it at all) which makes it likely I'll consider them downvote-worthy.

I think there are probably quite a few users who behave similarly. But there's no need for us to form an organization, because each of us can just use the user-moderation tools as intended, without having to coordinate our actions with each other.

Re: There are no results for tank man

#188
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@dang, I think we need an explanation for why Tank Man-related content on Hacker News has been disappearing all day. I usually trust HN to be a bastion of free speech, and if there isn't some kind of proportionate response here, I don't believe myself or many others here will be able to see it that way going forward. EDIT: Thank you for your response, dang. Hacker News is a special place, which is why we have respond…

>I usually trust HN to be a bastion of free speech

Whoops

Re: There are no results for tank man

#189

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I don't doubt posts are flagged by users as opposed to moderation. But at the same time, it also seems like flagging can be too easily abused, and can lead to accusations of censorship and distrust. (Though I've certainly seen it work well in cases, especially for false/defamatory articles.) But it really does seem like we're at the point where longstanding users need to also be able to vouch for flagged stories, or…

Another approach is to penalize users (e.g. stop trusting their flags) who flagged a post which then got unflagged by a mod.

the mods take flagging rights away from people they find abusing it

Re: There are no results for tank man

#190
Since these pages will likely be updated, here are the archived links as proof of this happening:

https://web.archive.org/web/20210604192821/https://www.bing....

https://web.archive.org/web/20210604180506/https://images.se...

https://web.archive.org/web/20210604194355/https://www.ecosi...

https://web.archive.org/web/20210604194336/https://search.ao...

Some people probably think "nobody uses Bing", but Bing powers a lot of different search engines (Yahoo, Ecosia, AOL, DuckDuckGo, and more). It's the default search engine on millions of devices (Windows, and even if you change it, Windows search still uses it; Xbox uses it as well.)

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