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Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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AFAIK the age restriction credit card thing (inside the EU) is the result of some stupid law change (the Audiovisual Media Services Directive). Google probably doesn't want to validate users' age (because selling ads to impressionable kids is very lucrative) but they have to now.

I'm so tired of tech people saying "it has to suck because the law requires it", when they clearly haven't read it. You hear it all the time when discussing tracking banners or ID verification. NO, the law does NOT require your implementation to suck, and most laws give you plenty of leeway in how you implement it. This is really not personal, but I HATE the argument. Take this as an example. The AVMSD isn't new, it…

It's possibly not how they wanted to interpret it (though I see how it helps their ad/tracking business). But it is probably how they have to interpret it because they might get sued if they didn't. At the very least it's an expensive court case to dismiss. All whilst eyeball-thirsty news agencies print articles such as "Google Refuses to Support EU Child-Protection Legislation", and Twitter-personas post tweets like "Uh Google - what about the kids?"

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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> Google probably doesn't want to validate users' age (because selling ads to impressionable kids is very lucrative) but they have to now. I mean, I hate this age validation as much as everyone else, curbing advertising to impressionable kids doesn't sound too stupid to me...

I would much rather allow kids to watch trailers of Battlefield than to have to give Google pictures of my ID/passport. But that ship has sailed now. This is the new reality and it'll probably be applied to more websites in the future.

Your kids?

Also, there’s much more content on YouTube that most parents would absolutely not want their kids seeing than a battlefield trailer.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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AFAIK the age restriction credit card thing (inside the EU) is the result of some stupid law change (the Audiovisual Media Services Directive). Google probably doesn't want to validate users' age (because selling ads to impressionable kids is very lucrative) but they have to now.

Apparently you'll need to scan an ID if you don't have a credit card, and I bet the EU has millions of young adults without a credit card. Either way, the end result is that you cannot use a video service without exposing your real identity to the service provider. And for what? Is there an epidemic of video clips wrecking children's minds I'm not aware of? Lacking that, this doesn't seem even remotely justified. All…

> All this is either EU lifers keeping themselves busy to justify their existence to themselves, MEPs wanting something to grandstand on, or something equally vapid.

Or.. companies being obtuse with their implementation of the law, as they often are with the cookie/GDPR laws.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Anything on an iphone is Apple. They dictate content, UI design, architecture and moderation policy for all the apps on the device.

No, Apple doesn't dictate credit card verification requirements. Actually they are quite opposed.

Apparently they have specifically allowed it in this case. Otherwise there would be no iOS Skype app.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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No, Apple doesn't dictate credit card verification requirements. Actually they are quite opposed.

>No, Apple doesn't dictate credit card verification requirements. that's the point parent was making; Apple made a decision about such things when allowing an app within their ecosystem that makes such choices (Skype, in this case).

Allowing something to happen isn’t dictating IMO.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Aren't there better websites if you're into age restricted videos?

An age restricted video could be be one that features mild gore and isn't rated for children, or for example music that originates from an adult rated show... Not everything age restricted is porn.

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I use Privacy.com to make virtual cards for this purpose.

Does privacy.com still require a debit card? That was what put me off the last time I investigated their service.

It did the last time I looked into it.

I went to set up a privacy.com virtual card for a semi-sketchy site, only to have privacy deny the charge as it was for a "high risk" site.

Yeah, I KNOW, that's why I wanted to use a virtual card. That ended my brief foray into privacy.com

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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You believe an appreciable number of people will stop using Youtube over this?

My issue is there is no alternative. I dont want to stop watching or hurt particular creators (not that one person would make much difference, but I enjoy their content) and Youtube is the only option. Even supporting them on Patreon the videos they share are still hosted on youtube... what am I to do about that? For a few (LTT for example has Floatplane) there are alternatives, but there is no app for it to allow me…

The economics of it are not good. An ad-supported YouTube competitor won't be able to survive if early adopter ("techie" types) are all using adblockers.
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