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YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by Spivak »

wyager wrote: post #59
StavrosK wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google probably doesn't want to validate users' age (because selling ads to impressionable kids is very lucrative) but they have to now. I mean, I hate this age validation as much as everyone else, curbing advertising to impressionable kids doesn't sound too stupid to me...

This is parents’ job, not Google’s. If you legally require Google to act like a parent, they have to do it to everyone.

Sounds good. Say I'm a non-technical parent that wants to give my child access to YouTube but not allow them to watch content that they're not old enough to consume on their own. How should I do this? I want to give them the freedom to explore topics they're interested in so downloading some pre-approved videos isn't going to work. And my kid is smart and will realize that any account-specific setting can trivially be bypassed by logging out.

What should I do? Not allowing my kids access to the internet at all is a non-answer in 2020. Hell it was a non-answer in 1995.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by [deleted] »

ljm wrote: post #44
toto444 wrote: post #14

A few days ago, I clicked an age restricted video on Youtube and usually I just state that I am above 18 but now they ask for a credit card number or an identity card to prove it. I am not going to send this just to watch some random video clip that users have declared not appropriate to a young audience because it features a zombie. Seriously!

I had this happen with the old "Ah fuck, I can't believe you've done this" video. I'm not sure why exactly that has an age restriction, or why I'd give Google some ID to watch a vintage Youtube meme. I presume it's because their ML detected 'fuck' in the audio. Note to Google: Ah fuck, I can't believe you've done this.

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Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by MisterTea »

toto444 wrote: post #14

A few days ago, I clicked an age restricted video on Youtube and usually I just state that I am above 18 but now they ask for a credit card number or an identity card to prove it. I am not going to send this just to watch some random video clip that users have declared not appropriate to a young audience because it features a zombie. Seriously!

This is clearly Google pushing $12/month youtube red.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by debacle »

pmoriarty wrote: post #40
formerly_proven wrote: post #23

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> Title seems misleading, it can download it as long as you provide logged in account info ... assuming that you have provided YouTube with a scan of your ID card to prove that you are 18+ ...

"assuming that you have provided YouTube with a scan of your ID card" I expect that at some point you'll have to prove your identity to use youtube at all, because its in Google's interest to know as much as possible about its users. Youtube will also probably turn in to a pay-to-view service at some point. They already dominate the video space, and their network effects are enormous, and a huge number of people will…

Google needs trust to be pay-to-view. These anti-user practices will further erode their trust, not increase it.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by Milner08 »

dividedbyzero wrote: post #15
h0nd wrote: post #4

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Login alone does not help for age restricted videos. First step towards automatically stop using youtube. It their choice really.

You believe an appreciable number of people will stop using Youtube over this?

My issue is there is no alternative. I dont want to stop watching or hurt particular creators (not that one person would make much difference, but I enjoy their content) and Youtube is the only option. Even supporting them on Patreon the videos they share are still hosted on youtube... what am I to do about that? For a few (LTT for example has Floatplane) there are alternatives, but there is no app for it to allow me to cast to the TV... so either way I am screwed. The world desperately needs a YouTube competitor. I would be quite happy with a service like Floatplane where I can pick which creators to support, so long as there is a sort of 'preview tier' to help discover new creators which is add based and maybe even time limited.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by dredmorbius »

dfxm12 wrote: post #58
swiley wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You work so hard explaining to your friends good infosec practice like not just typing their credit card in because some site wants to "verify their age" and then Google and Apple just go and fuck around with stuff like this. At this point the best advice you can give your friends is "stay the fuck away from computers unless you're willing to sit down and read a bunch of FOSSS manuals."

On one hand, people have given up their credit card for worse pre-Internet or outside of the Internet (like "free" or nearly free trials that turn into a subscription service). On another, Google already has a lot of peoples' credit card numbers by way of Google Pay. Does this expose those people to any more risk?

And for those who haven't given their credit card number, as a protection against abuse or "accidental" purchases (in-app, in-game, premium content, etc.), this looks like a suspiciously-convenient-to-Google mechanism for acquiring CC data.

We were previously told that it was advisable to use YouTube under an alias, and that other personal information such as phone numbers would be used only for account verification.

Those policies were rescinded or proved to be lies.

Google have no credibility here.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by JohnWhigham »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #65
gulbrandr wrote: post #27

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You can use https://yewtu.be/ which is an instance of Invidious, all instances are listed here: https://github.com/iv-org/documentation/blob/f8ac896b91888e7...

Are you sure this change doesn't break Invidious as well? How will Invidious access those videos if it needs to sign in to do it?

Invidious can still get around the nanny gate...for now.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by rootusrootus »

derwiki wrote: post #74
dheera wrote: post #62

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Aren't there some credit cards that can create virtual numbers? Just give them a virtual number and then disable it right after registering. Then have your free trial, and only if you decide to actually subscribe, change it to a credit card number that is active. Businesses should not be unscrupulously trying to make money off people who forgot about the product during their free trial.

I use Privacy.com to make virtual cards for this purpose.

Does privacy.com still require a debit card? That was what put me off the last time I investigated their service.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by pkulak »

dfxm12 wrote: post #58
swiley wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You work so hard explaining to your friends good infosec practice like not just typing their credit card in because some site wants to "verify their age" and then Google and Apple just go and fuck around with stuff like this. At this point the best advice you can give your friends is "stay the fuck away from computers unless you're willing to sit down and read a bunch of FOSSS manuals."

On one hand, people have given up their credit card for worse pre-Internet or outside of the Internet (like "free" or nearly free trials that turn into a subscription service). On another, Google already has a lot of peoples' credit card numbers by way of Google Pay. Does this expose those people to any more risk?

The problem isn't that Google is going to do something bad with your credit card, it's that because it's Google, they are training people to be okay with it everywhere else. Like when my bank sends me an email with a link to an external domain because I have a "secure" message.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by homero »

swiley wrote: post #46
toto444 wrote: post #14

A few days ago, I clicked an age restricted video on Youtube and usually I just state that I am above 18 but now they ask for a credit card number or an identity card to prove it. I am not going to send this just to watch some random video clip that users have declared not appropriate to a young audience because it features a zombie. Seriously!

You work so hard explaining to your friends good infosec practice like not just typing their credit card in because some site wants to "verify their age" and then Google and Apple just go and fuck around with stuff like this. At this point the best advice you can give your friends is "stay the fuck away from computers unless you're willing to sit down and read a bunch of FOSSS manuals."

It's really bad but seems to be some EU law, this isn't something Google ever wanted.

An alternative would be entering your passport or something which would be even crazier

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