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Skype is not Apple though

Anything on an iphone is Apple. They dictate content, UI design, architecture and moderation policy for all the apps on the device.

No, Apple doesn't dictate credit card verification requirements. Actually they are quite opposed.

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Are you, by chance, using Brave? I've noticed that recently with Brave as well. Didn't seem to happen in Chrome even when viewing the same videos on the same machine.

Firefox. Dark pattern to get people to use Chrome?

I suspect this is the real cause. They did it with search, makes sense they would do it with other areas as well.

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there are js scripts like https://github.com/zerodytrash/Simple-YouTube-Age-Restrictio... so it seems like this will get fixed eventually

Does not appear to work for the video in the issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR8s72aouNE

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But other websites don't do this, so I don't think it's a COPPA thing.

I had this happen on a gaming forum, they upgraded to new forum software and pushed users through a 'update your account' flow. I accidentally set my year to the wrong number and ended up locked out of what had been a long-term username. It was bad, actually, because they had developed a system where your username on the system was tied to your in-game nickname as well so I ended up locked out of both and had to crea…

> The admin of the website literally said "there's nothing I can do". I'm sure this isn't to do with the law specifically but just some limitation of their tools.

At the gaming forum I helped to run around 10 years ago we consulted a lawyer and this [asking for birthdate but not allowing birthdate changes] was the only way to keep out of serious trouble and to not need ID verification.

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A few days ago, I clicked an age restricted video on Youtube and usually I just state that I am above 18 but now they ask for a credit card number or an identity card to prove it. I am not going to send this just to watch some random video clip that users have declared not appropriate to a young audience because it features a zombie. Seriously!

You work so hard explaining to your friends good infosec practice like not just typing their credit card in because some site wants to "verify their age" and then Google and Apple just go and fuck around with stuff like this. At this point the best advice you can give your friends is "stay the fuck away from computers unless you're willing to sit down and read a bunch of FOSSS manuals."

On the more humorous side they could have implemented an age check similar to the one from Leisure Suit Larry.

Although the questions were a lot harder back in 1991 when the Internet was not at your disposal.

http://www.classicgaming.cc/pc/leisure-suit-larry/age-quiz

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I grew up with libraries and video stores for access to analogous materials and didn't have regular internet access until 1999. I really don't see why it's reasonable to expect the internet to supplant parenting duties that would have been reasonably expected in the pre-Youtube state of affairs. If you want to control what your kids see, don't let them have internet access. This is simply reality. I know that from th…

This isn't supplanting parenting duties, it's giving parents the tools to actually parent. Without this your options are basically no YouTube access at all or full YouTube access with zero granularity in-between. The default for logged-out people has to be restrictive or else it's trivial to bypass. The current rules for porn, alcohol, and mature games are a joke and have been since their inception. Everyone being bo…

The restriction previously happened at a device level, moving it to google seems like an elaborate justification to move the default to restrictive and break external video viewers and apps like yt-dl.

You should control your kids device and make restrictions there, not place them by default on the entire internet.

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"all your lives"? Or just the lives of a few, at the cost of the many? Not all parents agree that this is the right thing to do.

Do you know _any_ parents that want their kids to consume ads?

I have two kids. I don't actually mind when they see advertising because it has given me a great opportunity to explain the tricks being used to sell product. I think they are generally wary of advertising now because of this.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Say I'm a regular member of society and want to watch the trailer for a new Battlefield game. How should I do this? YouTube asks me to give them pictures of my ID for that. This is the mechanism that will be used for this right now. And it's all in the name of "protecting" children. This isn't some future hypothetical - it has already happened. I've been barred from a whole slew of content on YouTube because of this.…

I mean this already existed prior to YouTube, it's just that before you couldn't access the 18+ trailer at all outside of an R rated movie theater or late night TV because it had to be made for prime time and print where content restrictions were enforced. I don't see this as any different than a theater asking to see your ID before letting your buy an R rated movie ticket. I sympathize that it's annoying hell but yo…

The standard we're comparing this to is the past 30 years of Internet Freedom where these invasive nags were nowhere to be found. Nobody was excited about the MPAA in 1995. But we were all excited about the Internet. Now "The Web" has become the MPAA et al. Lame.

The real answer is the behemoths are going to become irrelevant, being inescapably bound to government control and surveillance capitalism. The more hoops and restrictions they add, the more tech people will move to decentralized solutions that don't suffer such bullshit, and eventually the normies will follow. It's just a tragic end to the past few decades of revolutionary energy, pointlessly wasted on centralized dead ends. And in the short term, it's fucking frustrating when trying to get anything done.

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Say I'm a regular member of society and want to watch the trailer for a new Battlefield game. How should I do this? YouTube asks me to give them pictures of my ID for that. This is the mechanism that will be used for this right now. And it's all in the name of "protecting" children. This isn't some future hypothetical - it has already happened. I've been barred from a whole slew of content on YouTube because of this.…

I mean this already existed prior to YouTube, it's just that before you couldn't access the 18+ trailer at all outside of an R rated movie theater or late night TV because it had to be made for prime time and print where content restrictions were enforced. I don't see this as any different than a theater asking to see your ID before letting your buy an R rated movie ticket. I sympathize that it's annoying hell but yo…

There is a real different between showing your ID to a person in front of you compared to uploaded a digitized image of it to the internet. The threat vector completely changes once you do that.
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