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Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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When you want to team up with other parents to make all of your lives easier.

"all your lives"? Or just the lives of a few, at the cost of the many? Not all parents agree that this is the right thing to do.

Do you know _any_ parents that want their kids to consume ads?

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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A few days ago, I clicked an age restricted video on Youtube and usually I just state that I am above 18 but now they ask for a credit card number or an identity card to prove it. I am not going to send this just to watch some random video clip that users have declared not appropriate to a young audience because it features a zombie. Seriously!

AFAIK the age restriction credit card thing (inside the EU) is the result of some stupid law change (the Audiovisual Media Services Directive). Google probably doesn't want to validate users' age (because selling ads to impressionable kids is very lucrative) but they have to now.

Apparently you'll need to scan an ID if you don't have a credit card, and I bet the EU has millions of young adults without a credit card. Either way, the end result is that you cannot use a video service without exposing your real identity to the service provider. And for what? Is there an epidemic of video clips wrecking children's minds I'm not aware of? Lacking that, this doesn't seem even remotely justified.

All this is either EU lifers keeping themselves busy to justify their existence to themselves, MEPs wanting something to grandstand on, or something equally vapid. A much better approach would have been to keep the age prompt and leave the rest up to the parents, ie, to do nothing.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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post #14

A few days ago, I clicked an age restricted video on Youtube and usually I just state that I am above 18 but now they ask for a credit card number or an identity card to prove it. I am not going to send this just to watch some random video clip that users have declared not appropriate to a young audience because it features a zombie. Seriously!

A friend of mine had trouble with his young kid - he used a youtube video to walk himself through getting a credit card with grandma's birthday money. (I assume the prepaid cards you can get in the grocery store)

They found out when they found a nintendo portable full of games in his closet.

He was about 12.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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post #14

A few days ago, I clicked an age restricted video on Youtube and usually I just state that I am above 18 but now they ask for a credit card number or an identity card to prove it. I am not going to send this just to watch some random video clip that users have declared not appropriate to a young audience because it features a zombie. Seriously!

I had this happen with the old "Ah fuck, I can't believe you've done this" video. I'm not sure why exactly that has an age restriction, or why I'd give Google some ID to watch a vintage Youtube meme. I presume it's because their ML detected 'fuck' in the audio. Note to Google: Ah fuck, I can't believe you've done this.

This encapsulates my feelings perfectly. My Gmail account is 17 years old, but I get a notification on my phone every hour or so, that I must verify my age with Google. Nevermind that I've bought plenty of things from them over the years and that all I want to do is watch a YouTube video they happily showed me many times before.

Now I'm shopping for some storage to keep seventeen years of emails etc. so I can do a quick Takeout so that I don't lose access to all my data when I inevitably get unfriended and blocked by them for not being sufficiently compliant.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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post #46

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You work so hard explaining to your friends good infosec practice like not just typing their credit card in because some site wants to "verify their age" and then Google and Apple just go and fuck around with stuff like this. At this point the best advice you can give your friends is "stay the fuck away from computers unless you're willing to sit down and read a bunch of FOSSS manuals."

It's really bad but seems to be some EU law, this isn't something Google ever wanted. An alternative would be entering your passport or something which would be even crazier

In 2010, Google required your ID card if you enter a false birth date, and you are locked out of your account in the meantime. Happened to a colleague of mine because we were using Google Apps for Business. Because he didn’t want to give his real info to Google at work, he couldn’t work for 2 days and had to give Google his ID.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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post #181
post #163

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"all your lives"? Or just the lives of a few, at the cost of the many? Not all parents agree that this is the right thing to do.

Do you know _any_ parents that want their kids to consume ads?

The sane strategy is to simply avoid using an iPad as a babysitter rather than try to make everyone else’s life worse legislatively.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Given the glut of music streaming services, it seems unlikely to me someone could make money trying to compete with all of those and YouTube simultaneously.

I honestly believe that there's a market for people who want to watch a series of related music videos, and not have "A Vocal Coach Reacts to Silk Sonic!" pushed onto them.

YouTube itself has this. music.youtube.com

Not sure how it is implemented. It seems to just identify and catalog all of the videos uploaded to normal YouTube where the audio track consists of a single continuous musical track. It's not official music videos.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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post #81
post #59

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This is parents’ job, not Google’s. If you legally require Google to act like a parent, they have to do it to everyone.

Sounds good. Say I'm a non-technical parent that wants to give my child access to YouTube but not allow them to watch content that they're not old enough to consume on their own. How should I do this? I want to give them the freedom to explore topics they're interested in so downloading some pre-approved videos isn't going to work. And my kid is smart and will realize that any account-specific setting can trivially b…

I grew up with libraries and video stores for access to analogous materials and didn't have regular internet access until 1999. I really don't see why it's reasonable to expect the internet to supplant parenting duties that would have been reasonably expected in the pre-Youtube state of affairs.

If you want to control what your kids see, don't let them have internet access. This is simply reality. I know that from the time I got internet access, I began to see things that would horrify my parents on a semi-regular basis that they didn't know about. (I had an SA forums account.)

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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post #62

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Aren't there some credit cards that can create virtual numbers? Just give them a virtual number and then disable it right after registering. Then have your free trial, and only if you decide to actually subscribe, change it to a credit card number that is active. Businesses should not be unscrupulously trying to make money off people who forgot about the product during their free trial.

I use Privacy.com to make virtual cards for this purpose.

only work for US, alas

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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post #52
post #38

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Same situation here. This, the 2/3 ads being forced down me which are of no interest at all and the constant upselling of YouTube music and the recent shoot down of ad blockers on the desktop browser front really makes it a hostile place to be a consumer of media. I have experimentally uninstalled the YT app off my phone and not used the web site and I haven’t missed it a bit.

> the recent shoot down of ad blockers on the desktop browser Mobile browsers have been affected as well. uBlock Origin on Firefox for Android has been letting the ads through recently. Fortunately, NewPipe exists, but it depends on youtube-dl so, while it remains free of ads, it's also affected by this change surrounding age-restricted content. Hopefully people start moving somewhere else within the next few years,…

There's also a fork of NewPipe with SponsorBlock support [0], I am hesitant to link it, but I agree that moving off YouTube and centralized networks is the goal.

0. https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe/

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