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We’ve found an instance where a semicolon would be clarifying: > Yangtze dam separated Paddlefish, largest (fish), from spawn; now extinct.
That still confusing and seems like something only a machine would produce.
> Yangtze dam separates Paddlefish, largest, from spawn, now extinct What does this mean?
We’ve found an instance where a semicolon would be clarifying: > Yangtze dam separated Paddlefish, largest (fish), from spawn; now extinct.
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Perhaps because that title completely omits any form of attribution, which as the article suggests, is largely because of the Gezhouba Dam which completely cut paddlefish off from their only spawning grounds. Why would you want to omit that part? That said, this title is a poor attempt at communication.
There's nothing wrong with: The Chinese paddlefish, one of world's largest fish, has gone extinct *because of Yangtze dam* The problem is this part: Paddlefish, largest, from spawn, now extinct
What was wrong with the better original title "The Chinese paddlefish, one of world's largest fish, has gone extinct"
Nothing; that's what the title should be. The guidelines ask you to use the original title, and not try to summarize the article yourself in the submission title.
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The distinction you're applying seem to be arbitrary. What makes Chinese efforts nascent but American efforts (where species also continue to go extinct) developed? Most efforts to preserve animals come after the damage is done. That's why we maintain an endangered species list. I'm not going to argue that China is as committed to, or as successful at, the goal as say the US is, but "not as good" is very different fr…
So I haven't actually said anything comparing US to China. I see you want to answer your own question unrelated to mine - which is alright. I simply asked, and continue to ask without anyone being able to answer it: Are there any organizations in China that have any real power to do anything to protect the ecosystems critical to animal life or is it unfettered development >> ecosystem.
Nevertheless, the organisation tasked with protecting the environment in China is called the Ministry of Ecology and Environment. To quote Wikipedia:
> The Center for American Progress has described China's environmental policy as similar to that of the United States before 1970. That is, the central government issues fairly strict regulations, but the actual monitoring and enforcement are largely undertaken by local governments that have a greater interest in economic growth.
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Fish ladders are minimally effective. They are typically installed to add a rubber stamp to dams and say "look, we tried! It's not our fault the ecosystem is getting destroyed". Same thing with fish breeding and release programs.
Citation?
Serious question here - not starting a flamewar. Are there any real organizations in China with power that protect the ecosystem and animals there? From an outsider it seems like they just build whatever they want without any concern for the environment they live in which ultimately will do significant damage to their own human population after the environment collapses and can't support them.
The whole article is talking about China attempts to preserve endangered fish species. It mostly talking about how in the 80 and 90s they didn't do those preservation research when building dams. The article also talks that its not only happening in China these old paddlefish species are endangered all over the globe.
Unless you're including sturgeon in that group, there is now only one surviving species of paddlefish. That one, thanks to heavy conservation efforts, is listed as vulnerable, but not endangered. It's actually legal to sport fish in many states but takes are heavily regulated. The closely related sturgeon species are also struggling.
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Nothing; that's what the title should be. The guidelines ask you to use the original title, and not try to summarize the article yourself in the submission title.
Has anyone ever considered that maybe the HN guidelines are wrong here?
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You know China is not a democracy right? There’s only one organization in China with any real power and they’re the ones building the dams. The environment collapsing so that it can’t support people is a pretty drastic leap from running certain fish into extinction.
I am very aware of who runs China. Which is why I asked the question - are there any organizations within China that have any real power. My suspicion is that the CCP has no real effort or interest and the lack of people able to answer with a: Yes the CCP is seriously trying to protect the environment/ecosystem/species through the following things likely speaks to the lack of interest/initiative.
The CCP cares about the environment insofar as it benefits China. They probably do not care about a fish going extinct the way we do.