Earlier quoted context omitted.
What does "Bernie bro" add to this?
Perhaps a better term would be populist-tier.
Leave Obama out of this.
In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes
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Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes
#102I'm reminded of this recent viral Youtube which depicts what is apparently a routine occurrence in South Africa: A professional gang, armed with heavy caliber weapons, executes a sophisticated highway ambush in an attempt to capture a vehicle loaded with cell phones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAvqDF3Wujc I watched an interview with Leo Prinsloo, the star of the video. He mentioned that although this incident we…
So what you're observing is the process in which states originally asserted themselves as sovereign in the first place. Ie with a ton of violence. Say in ~20 years if those states failed, and Narco states were born out of them, eventually they'll establish a version of governance and im sure sure the cycle would continue.
The mafia's idea of economy is based on sucking people dry via their vices and weaknesses. I don't want any sort of governance by pushers, pimps, and goons.
Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
The big mistake you're making is that legalising it also magically brings all the infrastructure to neuter the cartels.
Of course it doesn't, they just transfer to other illegal activities, see: bootlegging by organized crime during prohibition. The problem the cartels will face is that there is no other business that makes as much money, and it would require a retool of the entire organization (or scale up, at a minimum) to get back to even a fraction of their power. Cartels are not some unstoppable juggernaut: they run on capital, s…
Kidnapping and extortion of wealthy avocado growers is already a lucrative business many cartels have been branching out to.
Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes
#104I'm reminded of this recent viral Youtube which depicts what is apparently a routine occurrence in South Africa: A professional gang, armed with heavy caliber weapons, executes a sophisticated highway ambush in an attempt to capture a vehicle loaded with cell phones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAvqDF3Wujc I watched an interview with Leo Prinsloo, the star of the video. He mentioned that although this incident we…
where gangs and police forces have started to merge "By 1923 it was estimated over half of the PPB were also members of the Klan." If you research most municipal police forces in the United States, it's always been that way.. we just aren't taught that in American schools. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_Police_Bureau
That was about 100 years ago. Do you have more recent numbers?
Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes
#105About that last sentence: "former U.S. Ambassador [...] said in April that López Obrador views the fight against drug cartels as a distraction ... So he has basically adopted an agenda of a pretty laissez-faire attitude towards them, which is pretty troubling to our government, obviously.” Not from Mexico, but from Colombia, where we also have a very hard time with drugs. The real problem with drugs has never been he…
"Typical case of a northern country exploiting a southern country" Like Canada exploiting the US. Or Columbia exploiting Chile. Or Sweden exploiting Denmark. Typical? No...
US and Canada are very into southern politics, to do a lot of coal/oil/etc mining very below the actual worth, because it is always so much cheaper to lobby local politicians, who get elected year after year because they control the big media chain, making the whole circle of corruption and then labeling it democracy and capitalism
Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes
#106why do humans do this sort of thing?
Part of what's going on in Mexico is that the cartels have spread romanticized images of themselves to the point where many Mexican youngsters actually aspire to cartel life. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcocorrido
They are setting up legitimate business, and hiring whole towns.
I can see why certain people turn their heads.
There's part of me that went numb to other countries problems. America needs to help itself. I'm seeing more desperate, disenfranchised Americans than ever.
Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes
#107I'm reminded of this recent viral Youtube which depicts what is apparently a routine occurrence in South Africa: A professional gang, armed with heavy caliber weapons, executes a sophisticated highway ambush in an attempt to capture a vehicle loaded with cell phones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAvqDF3Wujc I watched an interview with Leo Prinsloo, the star of the video. He mentioned that although this incident we…
I think Mexican cartels are well past just having ex police and ex military members and are effectively have the status of "monopoly on force" in some regions.
Here's CJNG showing off some of their troops:
https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ht8bx7/this...
Here's one of them not only with a police escort but happy to show it:
https://old.reddit.com/r/NarcoFootage/comments/mdq35m/cjng_o...
Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Some cartels in Mexico govern way better than the Federal government there. Do you have a citation for this?
Experience? Infrastructure? Level of development? You can act afraid of Mexico or just go there and have a good time and notice the difference. The only bad parts of Mexico is where the recognized government and the local cartel haven't ceded power and are in conflict. They both like a booming economy and market confidence, just a different strongman to pay from a user experience perspective.
Supposing my pocket is picked in a cartel-governed part of Mexico, what remedies are available?
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was an old (facetious) John Stewart bit where he said the cheapest way to defeat (iirc ISIS) was to not fight them at all but let them get bogged down in having to actually govern. Obviously ISIS is an extreme example but I do think this method could be applied in a way to cartels. I’m not up to date on the situation but I do know that Columbia officially ended its civil war in 2019 with the FARC becoming a pol…
ISIS did actually govern. They had their own DMV.
Which was always the reason I thought there was more to ISIS than the western portrait of a group of extremist ideologues. State construction and maintenance is not a trivial thing and their are not the sort of skills you stumble upon within a group of "madmen". The groups spontaneous arrival and near immediate success in this regard was a little remarkable imo, and raises interesting questions on support and backing.
Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes
#110I'm reminded of this recent viral Youtube which depicts what is apparently a routine occurrence in South Africa: A professional gang, armed with heavy caliber weapons, executes a sophisticated highway ambush in an attempt to capture a vehicle loaded with cell phones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAvqDF3Wujc I watched an interview with Leo Prinsloo, the star of the video. He mentioned that although this incident we…
For an Indian example where the links between crime and government are more direct, there was a recent scandal where a disgraced Mumbai Police Commissioner wrote an open letter where he said his (also disgraced) subordinate was tasked by the state's Home Minister to extort 13 million USD from the city's businessmen every month . Heck, I assumed that nearly all politicians and a lot of policemen here are thoroughly co…
>>Edit: I wonder how imprudent it was of me to not use a VPN'd account to write this comment.
Unless they can hack HN servers to check its logs, I don't see how they'd track down the IP from where your comment was submitted from.