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In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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why do humans do this sort of thing?

blame drug addicted garbage that keep shoving that shit up their noses.

Drug addicted individuals are not garbage. They are human beings. I see them as worthy of compassion and a sincere helping hand, however it can be given.

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The reason cartels need to murder people at all is because the business is illegal and there is no justice system to mediate disputes. F500 CEOs aren't doing drive-bys on each other over patent infringements because they can just sue.

Why would the cartels want to legalize drugs?

They don't. It would mean no more risk premium and the involvement of people that could do a better job than them, but don't get involved in the trade for obvious reasons.

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blame drug addicted garbage that keep shoving that shit up their noses.

I think drug users should be called out for supporting this violent industry similar to how drunk drivers, sexual harassers, and racists are social pariahs

The problem is more that people don't know all the problems that are causing when buying cocaine. In the end, if they're doing it at home without harming anyone, what's the issue? I would relate it more to how people eating meat are contributing to global warming without realizing it.

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> If I were running things in Mexico I would legalize or decriminalize all drugs This is a naïve "Bernie bro"-style take. What do you with cartel turf wars? Legalize murder? The problem is not only complex on a local scale (city or country), but there are geopolitical pressures at play as well. Cartels tend to be very populist, often funneling money back in their communities making them (paradoxically) better. On the…

The reason cartels need to murder people at all is because the business is illegal and there is no justice system to mediate disputes. F500 CEOs aren't doing drive-bys on each other over patent infringements because they can just sue.

The big mistake you're making is that legalising it also magically brings all the infrastructure to neuter the cartels.

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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About that last sentence: "former U.S. Ambassador [...] said in April that López Obrador views the fight against drug cartels as a distraction ... So he has basically adopted an agenda of a pretty laissez-faire attitude towards them, which is pretty troubling to our government, obviously.” Not from Mexico, but from Colombia, where we also have a very hard time with drugs. The real problem with drugs has never been he…

> the US which always pushed us to fight drugs from this side, while they don't seem to do much from their side

Isn't the typical complaint that the US does too much to fight drugs?

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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> If I were running things in Mexico I would legalize or decriminalize all drugs This is a naïve "Bernie bro"-style take. What do you with cartel turf wars? Legalize murder? The problem is not only complex on a local scale (city or country), but there are geopolitical pressures at play as well. Cartels tend to be very populist, often funneling money back in their communities making them (paradoxically) better. On the…

Cartels only exist because of its illegality. Same reason alcohol smuggling gangsters existed during the US prohibition era.

Cartels would continue to exist though. Because there are always other illegal services that need to be provided. Prostitution, gambling, murder-for-hire, mercenaries, unlicensed surgeons, as well as a still-extant illegal drugs market because they are merely cheaper, or sold to those who cannot buy the otherwise state-approved drugs(underage, banned for some reason).

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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If I were running things in Mexico I would legalize or decriminalize all drugs. Setup compounds to securely house the police forces. Change the policy to "balazos, muchos balazos".

If you were running things in Mexico you would have zero ability to legalize or decriminalize all drugs in the actually relevant markets (USA).
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