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Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

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Re: Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime

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Post by swader999 »

unethical_ban wrote: post #231
74d-fe6-2c6 wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Surprise, you live in a society - and I don't say that sentence ironically. You should. Majority of Muricans is not even willing to pay into a communal health insurance. So much for the level of society. > That's why the fact that the vaccine is a sure shot That take is not scientific at all. There have been several issues reported with the vaccines.

Here you are, trying to say that Covid is less of a threat to yourself and others than the vaccine. Very few reactions have occurred. If you're worried about it, also don't go outside, cross a street, or go swimming in any body of water.

We still don't have enough data on whether this will suffer ADE. If parent is young, isn't in a highly infectious area and behaves cautiously, they may be making a less risky decision.

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Post by swader999 »

D13Fd wrote: post #136
heyflyguy wrote: post #40

I am being shunned by my family because of my lack of interest in the vaccine. I've had COVID and recovered. I also don't get a flu shot each year. I really like not putting things into my body, especially when year after year I may or may not "catch" these things but if I do, I always recover. I act responsibly and do not go out when I am sick. However, none of these facts or articles such as this will ever effectiv…

This position is selfish. Covid is very often asymptomatic but still spreads. There is no way you can know that you haven't had it again, haven't spread it to others, and won't continue to do so without a vaccine. And while it may be asymptomatic for you, you can still spread it to others who it will be very symptomatic for - including others who have been diligent and have taken the vaccine. You can kill people with…

If they get the vaccine they can still be infected with covid and transmit to others. Yes they will be less severe and probably less transmissive but it's a bit dangerous to think a vaccinated person is that much better than an unvaccinated person.

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Post by Vecr »

JPKab wrote: post #196
frankfrankfrank wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is clearly not logically consistent. I also know that the following will be very bothersome to hear for many people and I hope to . Nothing would indicate that unvaccinated would lead to mutations, especially over vaccinated whose vaccination does not actually perform as well as natural immunity developed from the body naturally building immunity. What is actually bing discussed in the non-corporate medical comm…

I am away from my home in the state of Nebraska now because my mother-in-law was one of the small number of people to experience a highly adverse event from her second Pfizer shot. She went into cardiac arrest 3 hours after getting her shot. It's been over a week now and they will be taking her off life support shortly because she is now brain dead. It should be noted that this is a rare event and I do recommend to m…

Is this written up anywhere public, preprint, VAERS, etc?

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Post by sebmellen »

insaneirish wrote: post #285
nednar wrote: post #159

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In many locations you have hospitals close by with covid stations. So you could bring the people to the virus.

And that would work how, exactly?

Walk the people through the respiratory ICU ward without PPE? Not endorsing it, just brainstorming...

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Post by checker659 »

andy_ppp wrote: post #43
checker659 wrote: post #32

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Find a lab that offers Roche Anti-Sars-cov2-N test.

Interesting, is this one just for Pfizer as I've had Astra Zenica which I believe is a different set of spike protein DNA sequences?

This one's for the nucleocapsid protein. If you'd like to test antibody generated by the vaccines, you'd have to take the Anti-sarscov2-S test.

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Post by thewakalix »

flarg wrote: post #313
seren wrote: post #86

From my understanding if you had an mRNA vaccine, your body was only exposed to an artificial spike protein, so effectively you have spike specific antibodies. On the other hand, if you had a real infection by the virus, you likely have antibodies for the spike protein and other part of the virus like the shell. So from my layman understanding, the immunity should be more resistant to a mutation of the spike protein.…

Your evidence is contradicting your opinion!

Yes, that's what "that being said" means. It introduces something that contradicts that which was previously stated.

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Post by fsh »

andy_ppp wrote: post #43
checker659 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Find a lab that offers Roche Anti-Sars-cov2-N test.

Interesting, is this one just for Pfizer as I've had Astra Zenica which I believe is a different set of spike protein DNA sequences?

All currently used vaccines use the same version of the spike protein sequence.

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Post by hef19898 »

wheels wrote: post #317
loveistheanswer wrote: post #189

It almost seems like a lot of people don't want the data to indicate that natural immunity is strong and long lasting, even though the data shows that reinfection is extemely rare. Similar to how so many people have been unwilling to even consider a lab leak was a possibility, until just now it seems, because that idea was heresy to the orthodox dogma that ordained Scientists are Saviors. Humans have equated sickness…

It's been very interesting to me listening particularly to American podcasts and the extent to which the American left equates Covid rules to piety. You can here that there's significant genuine resistantance to the idea of letting go of the restrictions as they've become part of identity. I'm American, but I've lived in Germany for the last 20 years. Here, vaccines are being used as the carrot to be able to get rid…

My impression, as a German still following US politics post-Trump more than I should, is that US governors, especially the GOP ones, never put real restrictions in place and were among the first to get rid of them. Examples include Texas and Florida.

In Germany everything Covid turned political last fall, with Laschet being anti-restrictions and Söder being pro-restrictions. In both cases to score political points for their campaigns to become the conservative's candidate for chancellor.

Everybody wants back a normal life, some people simply have trouble accepting that it will take a while still. And that doing it prematurely poses a significant risk.

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Post by BeefWellington »

JPKab wrote: post #196
frankfrankfrank wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is clearly not logically consistent. I also know that the following will be very bothersome to hear for many people and I hope to . Nothing would indicate that unvaccinated would lead to mutations, especially over vaccinated whose vaccination does not actually perform as well as natural immunity developed from the body naturally building immunity. What is actually bing discussed in the non-corporate medical comm…

I am away from my home in the state of Nebraska now because my mother-in-law was one of the small number of people to experience a highly adverse event from her second Pfizer shot. She went into cardiac arrest 3 hours after getting her shot. It's been over a week now and they will be taking her off life support shortly because she is now brain dead. It should be noted that this is a rare event and I do recommend to m…

That sounds awful and you have my condolences.

With respect to the media: > That being said no media organizations are going to report what happened to my mother-in-law. They know if they do so it will create vaccine hesitancy in many people. I understand and empathize with this but it does raise ethical questions.

There are plenty of news organizations who would publicize this story. There have been major outlets reporting on all manner of vaccine complications as they have been rolled out.[1][2][3]

I would encourage you to reach out to the CDC directly if you feel the medical team is not taking it seriously.

[1]: https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-guidance-heart-inflammati... [2]: https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2021/05/04/cdc-investigating-mi... [3]: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/health/covid-vaccine-deat...

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Post by hef19898 »

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #272
anoncake wrote: post #242

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You'll obviously get some virus in your body, but a lot less because most of it (hopefully) gets destroyed before it can reproduce.

It will still be picked up by a PCR test depending on the number of replication cycles. Which is why mass testing everyone, including healthy people, is such a dumb idea.

Only if the number of cycles wasn't pre defined. Which it is, nobody is running cycles until a PCR test turns positive.
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