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Scientists have found that people who had SARS are immune to COVID. Their T cells fight it off. There was another variant of a coronavirus that went around and people who got that seem to be immune to. Some scientists testing on older blood samples found this. The older coronavirus didn't cause major issues in society and went unnoticed. I share this to say that there is reason to believe that we will be able to figh…
> Scientists have found that people who had SARS are immune to COVID Citation needed.
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
But you _did_ catch covid so being careful isn't always enough. I don't think it's emotional or unreasonable for your family to require the vaccine before you visit. Also, I'm not suggesting that you will "kill everyone" by not getting the vaccine, but it really isn't just about you and that you personally will probably recover. Do you think it's a reasonable thing for most people to take your stance and not get vacc…
>We are at the tail end of this thing _because_ we have a vaccination available. Are you implying naturally gained immunity does not play a role in herd immunity? Is there any data which supports this hypothesis?
No he is not
Re: Had Covid? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
But you _did_ catch covid so being careful isn't always enough. I don't think it's emotional or unreasonable for your family to require the vaccine before you visit. Also, I'm not suggesting that you will "kill everyone" by not getting the vaccine, but it really isn't just about you and that you personally will probably recover. Do you think it's a reasonable thing for most people to take your stance and not get vacc…
>We are at the tail end of this thing _because_ we have a vaccination available. Are you implying naturally gained immunity does not play a role in herd immunity? Is there any data which supports this hypothesis?
Brazil. Sweden. Seasonal flu. HIV.
Human immunity is not the sole factor in herd immunity.
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#184I am being shunned by my family because of my lack of interest in the vaccine. I've had COVID and recovered. I also don't get a flu shot each year. I really like not putting things into my body, especially when year after year I may or may not "catch" these things but if I do, I always recover. I act responsibly and do not go out when I am sick. However, none of these facts or articles such as this will ever effectiv…
> I have continuously been near or around folks that have come down with Covid and have yet to encounter a second infection or positive test since my initial infection. I look forward to when greater fact-based realities start to take hold again. People can get covid twice [1]. Especially older people who are at higher risk of death. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00502-w
In a year and a half, Veratti, a football player for PSG, got it 3 times. Reinfection is a real tangible thing.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
This seems like one of those situations where we all need to be saying "The plural of anecdote is not data" on the rosary every morning. Assume, for the sake of argument, that prior infection reduces your risk of future infection by 95%. That's a far sight better than most the vaccines, enough so that a 2nd infection would be noteworthy on a personal level. But then, since this is an Internet forum, we need to throw…
its a young healthy couple, 2nd infection ongoing and much more severe
I didn't mean to minimize your friends' experience with a giant Skepty McSkepterson smackdown, and I apologize if that's how it came across. It sounds like it's an awful situation.
For the sake of clarification, I was more meaning to say, for the benefit of others, that we need to be cautious about extrapolating from stories like this. Because, where it's a global pandemic affecting 7 billion people all at once, even the unlikeliest of outcomes are guaranteed to happen. So we can't necessarily collect stories from a bunch of different individuals, connect the dots, and expect the result to be an accurate version of the big picture. Perhaps prior infection confers imperfect immunity, perhaps it confers none at all, perhaps it's better than any vaccine. I'm not sure we know yet, but I am pretty sure that your experience is compatible with all of those possibilities.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Scientists have found that people who had SARS are immune to COVID Citation needed.
Here's one... https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.26.115832v1....
That study has N=24 and only studies T-cell response, which is a long way from being "immune" to infection. It is also a preprint and appears it has not yet been peer reviewed.
So, basically, some immune response is not the same as immunity against COVID-19, which is what your OP (over-)claimed.
But it really doesn't tell us anything we didn't know. SARS-COV-1 and SARS-COV-2 are related and there is some cross-activation of immune response. It is not an epidemiological study or anything.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
But you _did_ catch covid so being careful isn't always enough. I don't think it's emotional or unreasonable for your family to require the vaccine before you visit. Also, I'm not suggesting that you will "kill everyone" by not getting the vaccine, but it really isn't just about you and that you personally will probably recover. Do you think it's a reasonable thing for most people to take your stance and not get vacc…
> Do you think it's a reasonable thing for most people to take your stance and not get vaccinated? As with any other disease, it is reasonable (and expected) for everyone who had covid to not get vaccinated, given that the immunity you get from having the disease is always better than what you'd get from a vaccine. That this is even considered controversial by some people just goes to show you how far our science edu…
I’m not an expert by any means, just trying to reason this out logically.
I don’t know too much about COVID, so I’ll use Flu as an example.
Let’s say your statement is true. You get antibodies for the specific strain of Flu that you caught and the response was greater than vaccine. Flu vaccines include multiple strains. So even if your premise was true, you should get the vaccine to protect against other strains right? Unless you are advocating for catching every strain of Flu?
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#189It almost seems like a lot of people don't want the data to indicate that natural immunity is strong and long lasting, even though the data shows that reinfection is extemely rare.
Similar to how so many people have been unwilling to even consider a lab leak was a possibility, until just now it seems, because that idea was heresy to the orthodox dogma that ordained Scientists are Saviors.
Humans have equated sickness with Sin for thousands of years, and catching covid has been no exception.
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Like I said, emotional arguments.
Nothing the parent poster said is an emotional argument - quite the opposite. It may be that you have an emotional response to those facts but that does not make it an emotional argument.
Sarcasm is expressing emotion.