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I thought Matrix group sizes are limited to 1024 members. I can't google if this limit still exists.
There are no hard limit on matrix room member counts. e2e encrypted rooms with thousands of users se a lot of key negotiation traffic, but with such sizes maybe full encryption doesn't buy much as any user can share the log/history.
The noteworthy (IMO, obviously) communities/projects that I have seen jump ship (either voluntarily or by force) are wikimedia & wikimedia, ubuntu, gentoo, centos, kde, postgres, sourcehut, wesnoth, mutt, vim, emacs, lisp, scheme, clojure, haskell. Any other ones that I haven't seen yet?
Looking at https://freenode.net/static/img/wikimedia-forced-move.png the forced part is by people on the projects. Honestly, that sort of stuff is the main reason I stopped using IRC. I can completely believe that someone decided to do that and it shows contempt for the community it says they want to have. It's easy to say the community moved when you kick and ban everyone from a channel and create a new channel on a…
"How many people actually moved?" .. I'd presume everyone who wants to be in that channel and who has noticed that it has moved. Why would they not?
Also note that this example seems to be the exception, many channels that got hijacked merely mentioned the move in topic or even just mentioned libera in topic without any decision to move being finalized (though the hijackings did a great job at finalizing those decisions ;)
Can someone who is more in the know help me: is the move away from the Freenode name (or rebranding) a way to leave the project as it is (keeping existing functionality and thereby ensuring backwards compatibility)? Or is it because of a disagreement between maintainers, or something else?
It seems the matrix bridge is not up yet, so I guess I'm not joining quite yet :/ Though the one channel I really frequent these days is totally not caring about the whole issue, and seems there is no motivation to move. (It is not a project channel, just some hangout channel around a topic)
One of the things that Freenode (and other networks) allowed that I haven't seen from Libera.chat (yet) is the ability for others to host servers as well. I wonder if that will show up in time, or if the plan is for only Libera.chat servers to be part of the network.
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The random notification sounds are because default server notification settings are set by the server owner. So when you join a server, its notification setting could be "all messages" or "mentions only" depending on what the server owner set. This setting only affects the notification sound (it doesn't badge the server or anything), so it's easy to misunderstand.
If it's easy to misunderstand then it's bad UX. Discord's chat could learn a lot from Slack and Mattermost (but then again, so could Signal, Skype and Teams). Their videoconf however is top notch.
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Forcibly how?
freenode staff took over en masse all channels who mentioned "libera" in their topic. It's been discussed all over HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27286628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27285774 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27285802 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287283 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287750 (gentoo) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287807 (raku) https://n…
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There are no hard limit on matrix room member counts. e2e encrypted rooms with thousands of users se a lot of key negotiation traffic, but with such sizes maybe full encryption doesn't buy much as any user can share the log/history.
Umm, so O(n^2) key exchange traffic? In practice, is it noticable to users/ server admins?