Woke at Work: Why tech firms are trying to run away from politics and failing

Post by lanstin » Sat, May 22, 2021, 4:30 AM UTC

tjs8rj wrote: post #145

tshaddox wrote: post #117

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> To some people (I am not one of them at all, but I understand the argument) any abortion is literally murder, and it as a sincerely held belief as the recent movements like BLM and #metoo were. This as well as other parts of your comment seem to imply that you believe the sincerity or intensity with which one holds a particular belief is one of the most important factors in the merits of that belief. I personally d…

I think sincerity is a short hand to cut through partisanship. You believe what you believe sincerely, likely because you find it backed in truth / agreeing with your morals and best intentions. If we assume all humans generally back their sincere beliefs because they find them truthful / backed by their values, the conclusion is that you either have different information or different morals. You can either assume ev…

Post by dehrmann » Sat, May 22, 2021, 4:33 AM UTC

baryphonic wrote: post #449

> Coinbase and Basecamp, which each lost 60 employees after their bosses changed the rules, have apparently been inundated with applications from people wanting to work for politics-free firms. Basecamp lost 20 employees. 60 would be nearly their entire workforce. Coinbase did indeed lose 60 people out of around 1200 at the time.[0] [0] https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2020-10-08...

Post by lanstin » Sat, May 22, 2021, 4:35 AM UTC

betwixthewires wrote: post #401

kaitai wrote: post #391

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That's a really wishful-thinking reading of history. Back when women were coming into the workplace, no, a non-political workplace was not the thing called for -- a male workplace was what was called for. If you need a movie, watch North Country (based on the nonfiction book Class Action). Then, as now, is that people show up to work in the bodies they have and they get shit for it. People get agitated because there…

It is my problem. That's arrogant of you to assume that I don't care about people and injustice. But the fact is, we are talking about absurdity in the workplace right now. We aren't talking about equal pay for black people or women. We aren't talking about equal consideration of homosexual people for jobs. When we talk of it hypothetically that's how it is framed so as to paint everyone tired of it as an evil bigot,…

Post by ryanSrich » Sat, May 22, 2021, 4:37 AM UTC

Post by StanislavPetrov » Sat, May 22, 2021, 4:38 AM UTC

duped wrote: post #21

eric4smith wrote: post #7

People are human. But work is work. The canonical point of a workplace is to come together to fulfill the aims of the entrepreneurs. The personal aims of the workers are fulfilled best outside of work. Just stop to think about it logically for a minute... is the workplace the best place to circulate a petition condemning something that has nothing to do with work? The workplace necessarily is going to bring together…

The office exists within society. Some things exist everywhere you go in society. You don't give up ethics and morals because you cross the threshold of your place of business. Ignoring social problems in the workplace because it is a workplace is how we avoid solving those problems as a society. The office is exactly where we should be advocating for things, because it is where we spend the most time and can affect…