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Apple Music Announces Spatial Audio and Lossless Audio

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This may be true about popular music, because this is how we came to know this style of music - live performances (without proper sound engineering) sound worse. It is completely the opposite for classical music. There's still no way to replicate the sound quality of being close to an orchestra.

>There's still no way to replicate the sound quality of being close to an orchestra. That's why I always tend to bail out of audiophile discussion but I'll bite: why? What's so special about the soundwaves going into your ears when you sit close to an orchestra that couldn't be reproduced with good audio equipment? If you're talking about the experience itself of siting next to performers then I wholeheartedly agree,…

To start replicating the sound of an orchestra, you'll at a minimum need one speaker at each location where a player is, playing a single channel (the instrument).

But even this is simplifying things, because each instrument has a different body shape, different sound projection, which would need to be replicated by specialized speakers. Also, the room has an important effect on how the sound waves travel and hit you from different directions. At the end it is probably cheaper and easier to pay a ticket to have this live experience.

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Just got this email from Amazon Music-

We have some great news for you – going forward, there will be no extra charge for HD as part of your Amazon Music Unlimited subscription. You will continue to have full access to all of your HD content, but at no additional cost. This change will be reflected in your next billing cycle.

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Who knew I would be locked into Spotify not by the music quality, but by playlists, friends, apps using it, and their Discovery mechanisms. Apple and Tidal may have awesome quality, but apps like https://musicleague.app/ have gotten me through Lockdown, and it turns out that these value props are very strong. I always thought I would instantly switch to a service for its audio quality, but then again, I can also buy…

This musicleague website is probably the worst landing page I've ever seen. What the heck is it? And why should I log in? What company is behind it? What has it to do with Spotify? What's their target audience? Did they intentionally remove all information on that page? Is it an app for a smart phone? Or maybe I'm just too old..

I agree. No idea what this is or how it benefits me at all, so of course I did not connect my account. From Google for the curious:

"Music League is a weekly game which lets you share songs with friends and score points for whoever’s track slaps the most.

Each week you’re given a theme, eg. “a song that gets you on the dancefloor”, “a song you’ve loved from this year”, and you have a week to make your submission. The tracks are then all automatically added to an anonymous Spotify playlist which you and your league listen to, before voting for which track you like the best.

You have 10 points to dish out and – for the wannabe music critics among you – comments to leave on each song. When you reach the deadline, the points are tallied and a winner declared."

Not really interested.

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From the article: > J Balvin said: [...] With Lossless, everything in the music is going to sound bigger and stronger but more importantly, it will be better quality. [...] There have been tests showing we cannot hear the difference between minimally lossy audio (e.g. mp3 320kbps) and lossless. But Balvin can. And it sounds "bigger and stronger". The extra quality of lossless is nice when mixing/remixing the sound, a…

The liberal use of adjectives when discussion audio quality is what sets my BS alarm off. Bigger. Stronger. Warmer. Not that these cannot meaningfully describe audio. But it tells me they cannot quantify the difference.

I think _experiencing_ audio is mostly subjective anyway, and that these discussions are all equally worthless because of it.

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post #16

Can't wait to listen to 192kHz/24-bit on my AAC Bluetooth AirPods

Bluetooth technology doesn't have the bandwidth capacity to stream lossless audio, sorry. You will be listening to a compressed stream. The only way to listen lossless is wired.

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Lossless is MEANINGLESS because Bluetooth audio itself is a lossy compressed stream. How are Apple going to market lossless streaming to Airpods, when such a thing is technically impossible?

"It just FEELS better. You'll know it when you hear it."

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Lossless is MEANINGLESS because Bluetooth audio itself is a lossy compressed stream. How are Apple going to market lossless streaming to Airpods, when such a thing is technically impossible?

High-res lossless audio requires a USB DAC and isn't compatible with any BT headphones according to Apple.

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post #175

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> The format is ALAC, it’s not proprietary but an open spec True. No one else bothers with it though, because why should they when FLAC exists? That makes ALAC, in practice, largely an Apple-only format.

I've been storing my FLAC files as ALAC for iTunes compatibility for the past decade. Max.app on macOS, while old and creaky looking, does a fine job of transcoding them and maintaining tags.

Now imagine storing it in FLAC and playing them everywhere, without having to transcode at all.

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Apple TV doesn’t have Spacial Audio. Only iPads and iPhones.

Apple TV the streaming service. Not Apple TV the hardware or Apple TV the app or any other Apple TV that apple makes.

The streaming service is Apple TV+ while the App is TV and the device is called Apple TV.
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