Why would you speed run a game about making huge builds that take years anyway?
Why would you build huge things in a game about killing a dragon quickly?
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How Lucky Is Too Lucky in Minecraft?
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Re: How Lucky Is Too Lucky in Minecraft?
#72Let's say that this person did cheat. We can generally agree that cheating is not ethical. But what happens when their celebrity sits upon a foundation of lies and because of their celebrity they amassed some serious wealth. If they built such a large viewer base from cheating, is there any legal recourse here? Or will they be allowed to walk away with their bags of money and the mark of shame?
Re: How Lucky Is Too Lucky in Minecraft?
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's troubling when individuals do this, but I find it especially brutal that "double down and never admit guilt" is the go-to strategy for most nation states and corporations.
What is a "nation state"? edit: Wikipedia says there are around 20 nation states. I don't know why you're picking those out specifically though.
"Nation state" is used colloquially just to mean "country", but it has a connotation of formality or even oppression. Where "country" just sounds like a place where people live, "nation state" has a kind of academic, officious sound.
So it's used in a context like this to imply something nefarious, treating a country a bit like a dystopian sci-fi megacorp.
That doesn't make the assertion wrong. It would have been equally valid with the term "country". Just explaining (over-explaining, probably) why the OP chose that particular phrase: it has a particular emotional impact.
Re: How Lucky Is Too Lucky in Minecraft?
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is a "nation state"? edit: Wikipedia says there are around 20 nation states. I don't know why you're picking those out specifically though.
The rest of the world would call "country", but American govspeak has decided to call "nation state" for some weird reason.
The rest of the world makes a useful distinction between a 'country' (such as France), a 'state' (the public institutions which run France), and a 'government' (the political entity which controls the French state).
However in the US the word 'state' is overloaded, so 'nation state' is used. It's confusing, because 'nation' is sometimes used to mean 'country' (which is how it's intended in 'nation state') and more traditionally used to mean a people with a shared language and history.
Re: How Lucky Is Too Lucky in Minecraft?
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, I meant more like... I don't know if it's possible to verify if a run submitted for non-TAS leaderboard isn't secretly a TAS run and if not, the era of any integrity of non-TAS leaderboards would be over. So all non-TAS speedrunning would be non-competitive in the future, if there's such a thing as non-competitive speedrunning.
Frame perfect tricks are often fairly easy to spot, and heavy usage of then are pretty indicative of TAS runs. Of course, there are folks who can do those frame perfect tricks, but if it ever does come to contention, then asking them to perform said trick live seems like a pretty easy way to confirm.
You just end up with a situation where there's intense competition to make cheatbots as good as possible, within the parameters of plausible deniability. People start meta-hacking to find tricks which don't improve the speedrun but keep it impossibly fast while making it look more convincingly human. People spend time obsessively training not to get good at the game, but to make it seem as though they would have been good enough to do a speedrun which was actually automated. Eventually you start to get false positives as the bar for cheating catches the most skilled and dedicated non-cheating players.
Then again some people still enjoy watching professional cycling so maybe it will be fine.
Re: How Lucky Is Too Lucky in Minecraft?
#76Is a bugged game ruled out here? There's no way this is luck, of course, but something in the technology stack not functioning properly and leading to this result sounds at least possible. Of course, cheating is still the far more likely explanation.
That was my thought as well. He's known for trying out lots of wacky random mods, so one could imagine a case where he believes the runs were legit, but actually he had left a mod enabled by mistake, or similar.
Or (much less plausibly), it's at least superficially possible that there could be some minecraft bug related to mod handling, such that his game client wasn't in a vanilla state even though he really had removed all non-standard mods.
Re: How Lucky Is Too Lucky in Minecraft?
#77Let's say that this person did cheat. We can generally agree that cheating is not ethical. But what happens when their celebrity sits upon a foundation of lies and because of their celebrity they amassed some serious wealth. If they built such a large viewer base from cheating, is there any legal recourse here? Or will they be allowed to walk away with their bags of money and the mark of shame?
What do you mean walk away? He is just getting started.
Re: How Lucky Is Too Lucky in Minecraft?
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is a "nation state"? edit: Wikipedia says there are around 20 nation states. I don't know why you're picking those out specifically though.
The rest of the world would call "country", but American govspeak has decided to call "nation state" for some weird reason.
As a friend in the State Department exlained, it's because of the French and the British. Generally,"nation" is used to refer to an autonomous political unit, but "nation-state" refers specifically to a sovereign nation.
And the French and the Brits have/had a lot of "nations" which are part of their "nation" and which thus are not "nation states" of their own. For example, Scotsland (and even technically Britain itself) are both nations that are themselves part of the nation-state that is the U.K. For the French, it gets a bit more complicated, since they have a number of territories which are nominally sovereign but are legally subordinate to the French government in Paris (like Tahiti).
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
When was it structured that way? Serious question - I generally believe the same thing, but looking at it from the outside I’m finding it hard to reach a worthwhile example.
As chaorace above you suggested, it was so structured by the arrival of the technology to keep track of everything you ever did that was bad and put it online for future reference. The tendency to do it was already in place, it is likely that you see someone from high school that was a jerk and you think that jerk once did this, even if it was 15 years ago. That's a sort of normal human tendency. Some people are so n…
I agree with you, but that’s a subtly different claim than that we used to have a community process (or ritual, but that’s adding some baggage) for forgiveness/reintegration that has since been lost.
Not having the technology that creates a social record is different than actively forgiving and forgetting.
Re: How Lucky Is Too Lucky in Minecraft?
#80The article recommends watching the video by Matt Parker, and so do I. Great refresher on probability (or luck, if you will) For convenience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ko3TdPy0TU
For those who don't want to watch the video:
He totally cheated