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At what point do we all just stop kidding ourselves and admit that the “answer for climate change” doesn’t exist? Yeah it’s been a fun ride and all, but we’ve got a HUGE bill coming due over the next 2 or so generations. There’s probably nothing we can do to change that.
"Writing meat off completely is taking the easy way out." Why not take the easy way out?
There isn't enough arable land to support everyone on a vegetarian diet
"Ditching meat isn't the answer", "Writing meat off completely is taking the easy way out", by someone who runs "a small, family-operated pig farm", and writes about how "beneficial and rewarding" sustainable farming can be. I'm not sure if they notice they make their living killing pigs. Another point: in the sentence >Commercial meat production got to be the monster it is because corporate interests monopolized the…
Putting human well-being above animals in work, sustenance, and sustainability is not odd or grotesque. Animal welfare secures the future of humanity, which seems enlightened to me, though the author doesn't engage in that pretense or emotional language.
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There isn't enough arable land to support everyone on a vegetarian diet
Huh? Vegetarian/Vegan diets use a fraction of the land compared to a omnivores diet. https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets
I'm not sure there is enough arible land to support the human population without grazing animals. I suspect anything is possible with enough technology and money, but matthewmorgan is correct in being concerned.
At what point do we all just stop kidding ourselves and admit that the “answer for climate change” doesn’t exist? Yeah it’s been a fun ride and all, but we’ve got a HUGE bill coming due over the next 2 or so generations. There’s probably nothing we can do to change that.
I also hear a kind of despair and giving up in your comment (maybe you feel it's just "the truth"?) but I know that attitude can be dangerous. It's like sitting in a house on fire and saying "why bother to run? my life is already ruined and there's nothing I can do to change that."
There are lots of plans and good shots we have at limiting the effects of global warming to 1.5C provided we take collective action. My favorite effort is the one at Rewiring America[1] which gives really actionable advice for both consumers and policy makers: electrify everything (cars, heating/cooling, stoves, driers, etc) and power it all by renewable electricity. They show in a pretty straightforward way that this will actually save us all money, eliminate the most significant carbon emissions, create jobs, and give us better standards of living than we currently have with fossil fuels. It's pretty inspiring and gives me a lot of hope which is necessary in difficult times.
Look at any argument for dealing with climate change and you’ll find which lobby or interest the person or group belongs to. Nobody wants to change, but they all want climate change to stop or slow down. This is going to be the biggest failing of humans in the 20th and 21st centuries, endangering many more humans than several COVID-19-like pandemics put together and the existence of many other species. And it’s not b…
At what point do we all just stop kidding ourselves and admit that the “answer for climate change” doesn’t exist? Yeah it’s been a fun ride and all, but we’ve got a HUGE bill coming due over the next 2 or so generations. There’s probably nothing we can do to change that.
Definitely true that we're going to and already feeling the effects of climate change. I also hear a kind of despair and giving up in your comment (maybe you feel it's just "the truth"?) but I know that attitude can be dangerous. It's like sitting in a house on fire and saying "why bother to run? my life is already ruined and there's nothing I can do to change that." There are lots of plans and good shots we have at…
I’ve never driven a car, don’t use AC and run heat as little as possible, don’t use a clothes drier, live in a tiny apartment, eat plant-based, never fly in a plane, won’t have kids.
I think I’m the only one trying and everybody else has given up!
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There isn't enough arable land to support everyone on a vegetarian diet
You are trying to tell me that growing food for animals to eat, and then eating the animals, somehow takes less arable land than directly growing foods for humans to eat? That's just not plausible.
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Definitely true that we're going to and already feeling the effects of climate change. I also hear a kind of despair and giving up in your comment (maybe you feel it's just "the truth"?) but I know that attitude can be dangerous. It's like sitting in a house on fire and saying "why bother to run? my life is already ruined and there's nothing I can do to change that." There are lots of plans and good shots we have at…
Disagree about your comment saying I sound like I’ve given up. I’ve never driven a car, don’t use AC and run heat as little as possible, don’t use a clothes drier, live in a tiny apartment, eat plant-based, never fly in a plane, won’t have kids. I think I’m the only one trying and everybody else has given up!
I also have never owned a car, ride my bike, eat mostly vegetarian, and eschew travel by planes! Solidarity!
And definitely feel your frustration with people. I think if there was clear guidance and leadership, financial help to make good climate decisions, and it became part of a cultural expectation that making bad climate decisions like buying a new fossil car or gas hot water heater was a faux pas then we'd progress toward climate solutions a lot faster.
Working as a therapist with people with addictions, I feel a clear analogy with people trying to change their behavior — lots of behaviors are quite deeply rooted both in people's psyches as well as our culture.