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Well, here's one thing that happened the other night: http://circlehack.com Edit : This is the circles UI implemented for Facebook friend lists. Three FB engineers put it together the night Google+ launched.
Since I'm wary of clicking random FB buttons, would you mind explaining what this is?
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gmail doesn't lock you in... so I am not sure what your point is.
My point was that Facebook don't also provide email services. Perhaps lock-in is too strong a term, but it's certainly convenient enough to discourage using anything other than gmail - and means that google will own a much larger chunk of your online identity than Facebook does now.
Incorrect, as of a few months ago. Every(?) Facebook user now has an email address: @facebook.com. You can send messages to external email addresses from the messages tab.
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G+'s Circles are a killer feature and they alone make me hope G+ takes off. Circles solve some very entrenched problems in social networking. So I really hope Facebook is working on a quality response to that.
I think Facebook has had groups for a while - they just aren't exposed that well in the UI. (I don't think I've ever tried to use them, though, so maybe they're different from Circles in some way.)
I'm going to venture a guess that you're only going to get politically correct answers on a public forum like HN. Something along the lines of: "We're happy to have some competition! By the way, did you know that facebook has had something like circles since 2009? Go to preferences and blah blah blah to enable it!" or "G+ and facebook fall into different categories and, in some ways, compliment one another! We're hap…
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There's a persistent myth that Facebook Group is the same as Google+ Circles. They are nowhere near each other. In fact, Google+ does not have the equivalent of Facebook Groups, unless you count in the older Google Groups. Facebook Group is closer to Google Groups or Yahoo Groups or any one of the dozens of forum-type sites. You create a space in which people join. It creates a venue. Google+ Circles is much closer t…
I think you misinterpreted the parent post. It's saying not saying that Facebook Groups is the same as Google Circles, it is saying that both Facebook and Google+ have the group functionality (in the sense of Unix groups - ie, grouping users for access restriction purposes). In Facebook it is called user lists.
But just to be sure, I had attempted to use user lists in the same way to restrict posting out and I was not able to.
Further, I reiterate: Google+ does not work like Unix groups. It works like Livejournal friend filters. The groups are relative to whatever you define and it is not global across the entire domain, unlike with Unix groups.
To implement circles/friends list as Unix groups, you would have to introduce the concept of namespaces in which the set of groups is scoped within a namespace. Then you attach individual namespaces for each person. In other words, named sets of named sets. The named sets themselves are not global, even though the members are.
So I just checked again. I see that after I click on -> lock button -> drop-down customize -> Specific People and then type in the list, I can restrict the update there.
I am testing this now: Once I select it, it says "Custom Setting saved" ?? Wait, does that mean I can only have ONE custom setting?
I just posted a test post. The resulting post has no indications that it is a special-restricted post. Along with the customized setting, does that mean that I can set a single default friend's list that I then blurt out to? What if I want to switch around?
If you know of an easier way, I will gladly say, I was wrong about Facebook lacking in the functionality I want.
I've mentioned in other comments here, Google+ defaults to "warren" and Facebook defaults to "plaza". Each can simulate the other with some contortions. That makes this more like a set of Evil Twins (http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/09/17/your-evil-twins-and-how...).
Meaning, if you don't get why Google+ is a killer app for me, then you don't really need the functionality it provides like I do. And that's reasonable by me. Whether or not this means that Google+ will "kill" Facebook (I doubt it) or not, I don't really care much about it.
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Then why I can't easily export my friends list from Facebook to Google+?
Because Google is too proud to use the simple AJAX API that Facebook provides to do so. https://developers.facebook.com/tools/explorer/?method=GET&#...
https://developers.facebook.com/policy/
Is this how those facebook -> google+ exporters are working, though?
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I think you misinterpreted the parent post. It's saying not saying that Facebook Groups is the same as Google Circles, it is saying that both Facebook and Google+ have the group functionality (in the sense of Unix groups - ie, grouping users for access restriction purposes). In Facebook it is called user lists.
Yeah, my mistake. Thanks for pointing it out.
My opinions are my own and I can't speak for Facebook as a whole (or in any capacity, really, which is why this will forever remain an anonymous post). I think Google will gain some traction initially, but what we're working on in my group is light years ahead of the Facebook you see and use today, and probably not the same direction that Google is (or can be) heading. Yes, we've had our stumbles with privacy, but wi…
Like others, I question whether this guy actually works for Facebook, but the "all your profile are belong to us." has done it's damage, because while perhaps you don't work there, it's highlighting a culture I know to be there. You're more likely to be a google+ team member, simply genius!
I don't always pretend to work for Facebook...
but when I do I'm an arrogant prick.
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Since I'm wary of clicking random FB buttons, would you mind explaining what this is?
Sorry, I forgot I'd already authorized it. It's the circles UI for Facebook friend lists. Three FB engineers put it together the night Google+ launched.