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Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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My opinions are my own and I can't speak for Facebook as a whole (or in any capacity, really, which is why this will forever remain an anonymous post). I think Google will gain some traction initially, but what we're working on in my group is light years ahead of the Facebook you see and use today, and probably not the same direction that Google is (or can be) heading. Yes, we've had our stumbles with privacy, but wi…

At the end of the day, I wonder if it really matters what Facebook does.

Once Google gets everyone on Plus then that omnipresent black bar will be at the top of every Google site, constantly sucking you back in with alerts of what's happening in your social stream. People will de facto head to Plus whenever they search, check finance, check their Gmail, look at their calendar, etc.

Ultimately, it's going to be hard for Facebook to compete with that level of constant activity.

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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at the end of the day, all your profile are belong to us. That one line was enough to convince me to delete my Facebook account again, once and for all. Thank you.

He's a troll. That sentiment is not prevalent in the company.

Then why I can't easily export my friends list from Facebook to Google+?

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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https://plus.google.com/104560124403688998123/buzz?tab=mX looks legit based on the people he's following. Mark doesnt look very happy :-).

I know 1 or 2 of the people in his circle's who work at Facebook which adds to the legitimacy.

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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at the end of the day, all your profile are belong to us. That one line was enough to convince me to delete my Facebook account again, once and for all. Thank you.

Was thinking the same. Fuck any company with that level of lock-in.

I take it you don't use gmail as your email provider then?

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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"Yes, we've had our stumbles with privacy, but will Google be any better? Any legitimate complaints that I've heard are either something we're resolving or is an inherent problem that any social networking site will face." I would argue that Google will be better because it's clear they've made privacy the most important part of their offering. By making circles one of the topmost items, they take something that most…

it certainly can be overcome with UI, it would require some massive changes to Facebook Agreed here. I've known for a long time that Facebook had near-identical groups functionality, but the interface is simply so painful to use that I barely even notice it. G+, on the other hand, has created a simple and intuitive privacy interface, and everything clearly shows who can see it. They haven't just made privacy an impor…

There's a persistent myth that Facebook Group is the same as Google+ Circles. They are nowhere near each other. In fact, Google+ does not have the equivalent of Facebook Groups, unless you count in the older Google Groups.

Facebook Group is closer to Google Groups or Yahoo Groups or any one of the dozens of forum-type sites. You create a space in which people join. It creates a venue. Google+ Circles is much closer to Livejournal friend filters. You have overlapping contexts but no single, formal venue that you join. Psychologically and sociologically, it works differently. It takes a lot more engineering work to get circles implemented than it does Facebook Groups (as it is implemented today).

I've been revisiting sending messages to specific groups of people in Facebook, outside the Groups context:

- To send to specific people on Facebook, you specify them directly. There are no pre-defined lists of people. Further, you have to jump extra hoops to do this, by clicking on the tiny lock icon, and then clicking on custom, and then typing in the names of the people you want to send this to. You have to do this for every single post you want to send out on a limited scope. Clearly, the Facebook UX designers want you to send it out to everyone.

- You can do the equivalent of private message to a group of people for an ad-hoc group. The last time I tried that, I hit its biggest limitation. I wanted to add more people into the running thread and it would not allow me to do that. Fortunately, everyone involved are current Livejournal contacts and we moved the conversation over there. Google+ does not allow you to add more people or circles to a running thread, but it does allow you to add more people into the circles which are dynamically computed into existing threads. As it should work.

- Google+ Profiles lets you specify exactly which part of the profile is viewable by which circle + people. You may not want your business phone number available to your drinking buddies, and you may not want your home phone number available to your business contacts.

- Google+ has a tool that lets you view what your stream looks like to other people. Admittedly, this is somewhat buried in the site.

- saurih brings up a very good point, "it doesn't matter how good your security is if people refuse to lift a finger to use it." A large % of the people in my circles are using it as public posts -- either thinking it in terms of Twitter-public, or they don't really care to. One of the people on there twigged on an insight: public posts on Google+ are meant for things that are relavent to everyone. People tend to post publicly and ignore much of the circle functionality; and as such, the interface will feel clunkier because you're not making full use of it.

On the other hand, all my friends who are expats from Livejournal and had been itching to ditch Facebook for something that provides this granularity of social contexts have set up the different streams.

In any case. Google+ scratches an itch I had. I'm glad it is here. It is the right tool for me, whether or not it is the right tool for the vast majority of Facebook users.

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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He's a troll. That sentiment is not prevalent in the company.

Then why I can't easily export my friends list from Facebook to Google+?

Someone published a hack:

(1) Open up a Yahoo account (2) Import Facebook contacts into the Yahoo account (3) In the add people to circles page, import from the Yahoo account.

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

#47

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Was thinking the same. Fuck any company with that level of lock-in.

I take it you don't use gmail as your email provider then?

gmail doesn't lock you in... so I am not sure what your point is.

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

#48

My opinions are my own and I can't speak for Facebook as a whole (or in any capacity, really, which is why this will forever remain an anonymous post). I think Google will gain some traction initially, but what we're working on in my group is light years ahead of the Facebook you see and use today, and probably not the same direction that Google is (or can be) heading. Yes, we've had our stumbles with privacy, but wi…

The thing I like about google+ is all the things I usually use are built into one 'platform' (gmail, videos, images, google apps) which in the end saves me time and allows me to lazy. I don't know how it will fare with the less technical inclined but for me, I like it.

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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I don't know, I think this is a good thing for everyone. With all the hiring wars going on between Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc., we're bound to see some really cool advancements from these companies in the near future. Plus, to have something pose as a direct competition to Facebook's core mission is exciting; Zuck won't back down, and neither will Page, and hopefully out of that comes innovation.

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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it certainly can be overcome with UI, it would require some massive changes to Facebook Agreed here. I've known for a long time that Facebook had near-identical groups functionality, but the interface is simply so painful to use that I barely even notice it. G+, on the other hand, has created a simple and intuitive privacy interface, and everything clearly shows who can see it. They haven't just made privacy an impor…

There's a persistent myth that Facebook Group is the same as Google+ Circles. They are nowhere near each other. In fact, Google+ does not have the equivalent of Facebook Groups, unless you count in the older Google Groups. Facebook Group is closer to Google Groups or Yahoo Groups or any one of the dozens of forum-type sites. You create a space in which people join. It creates a venue. Google+ Circles is much closer t…

I think you misinterpreted the parent post. It's saying not saying that Facebook Groups is the same as Google Circles, it is saying that both Facebook and Google+ have the group functionality (in the sense of Unix groups - ie, grouping users for access restriction purposes).

In Facebook it is called user lists.

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