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Jeff Bezos will testify in front of congress that he will cease to be innovative if required to pay taxes.
Amazon pays mountains of payroll taxes, as they are one of the largest employers in the world. The "Amazon pays no taxes" meme is a false one.
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Let's put it in terms of business. What does Amazon gain reading the data of retailers in AWS that they don't already have? How much more money would this make them? How much brand damage and lost of business to AWS (their most profitable organization) would they lose if this were to leak? The more prevalent their use of this AWS customer data, the higher the chance it gets leaked. Why do you think Amazon, one of the…
Info about what products sell well? Amazon has a thriving white label business and they can use it to decide what to make.
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I'm curious what kind of access Amazon would have to your data as a retailer running on AWS. Not in a technical sense, I'm a software engineer, I understand what data _is_ there, but more to the extent of, do they go out of their way to identify you, an AWS customer as a retail business and use that _retail_ data in ways such as described by the original complaint here? If the answer is anything other than "they defi…
Nobody can know for sure. Whether or not they were secretly mining data from AWS servers, they would say they don't and nobody on the outside would be able to tell. Even if it's unlikely, many people are simply choosing not to risk it.
If it were true that Amazon were taking sneaky peeks at data inside AWS related to retailers, and this became public, AWS as a business would be done.
The loud banging you'd be hearing would be the door closing as the last customer exited, followed by all the engineering staff who work on AWS as they see the writing on the wall.
Why would Amazon look to achieve some marginal advantage in its retail businesses at the risk of a total loss to one of its marquee businesses, AWS? It's an idiotic risk.
Well, it's something that is slowly backfiring. It's under the eyes of everyone, and not enforcing such policy will only make it even worse for Amazon itself that eventually will end up selling only non-branded products. Finally it will be only another e-commerce like "ebay" used to be, and something else will replace it. Just enjoy the ride until you can. PS: speaking out of experience, I had one time a talk to a di…
Amazon != AWS. As someone who has access to customer data in AWS, I'm very limited in what information I can access (to the point where it actively makes my job in Premium Support harder than it would be otherwise). I also have to provide a legitimate business reason for access to data. Not only is there an audit trail for what I do internally, but any calls I make to review customer data is published in the customer…
Most retailers, even big ones, don’t have the money or expertise to do this like that. Of the few who do (Apple for instance) Amazon is keen in making sure that those companies are heard and has direct relationships with them, but that’s few and far between.
That’s my take on this
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> This report has 0 to do with AWS Same company, leadership and culture. If you compete with Amazon, or could compete, it would be pretty stupid to put your jewels on AWS.
Different leadership and largely different culture. Or are you just making assumptions? Being on AWS works for Netflix, Disney+, and a lot of other streaming services I won't mention. ESPN and Fox Sports both use AWS. A lot of incredibly visible companies that offer cloud storage white-label S3. Tons of game studios use AWS. A lot of successful companies are pretty stupid I guess. But I'm not going to spend my time t…
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There should be an investigation into why they can make a far better offer than their competition. Most answers are likely exploitative in some way.
> Most answers are likely exploitative in some way On what basis are you making a claim like that? Toyota sells roughly as may vehicles in the US a Ford and more than the other manufacturers. Their cars are in many ways better than their competitors qualitatively and often cheaper. Do you think they are exploiting people? I could keep listing examples of market leaders that offer better products that are more aligned…
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> This report has 0 to do with AWS Same company, leadership and culture. If you compete with Amazon, or could compete, it would be pretty stupid to put your jewels on AWS.
Different leadership and largely different culture. Or are you just making assumptions? Being on AWS works for Netflix, Disney+, and a lot of other streaming services I won't mention. ESPN and Fox Sports both use AWS. A lot of incredibly visible companies that offer cloud storage white-label S3. Tons of game studios use AWS. A lot of successful companies are pretty stupid I guess. But I'm not going to spend my time t…
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Amazon pays mountains of payroll taxes, as they are one of the largest employers in the world. The "Amazon pays no taxes" meme is a false one.
I think the meme is "Amazon pays no federal taxes on it's profits", and that is a correct statement.
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> too big to fail How is Amazon "too big to fail" in your opinion? That phrase "I think they're too large", it means that a business is so central to the functioning on the broader economy and to several other industries that their failure would tank the whole economy. Think Boeing or JP Morgan Chase Bank. > and have all the money to buy laws, What exact laws has Amazon bought?
- Well, imagine what would have happened if AWS closed overnight. It would not only affect the economy, but also governments that run their infrastructure on AWS. - What I meant by that is also the money can ensure that new laws are not introduced, or investigations not carried out. Have you seen reports of Amazon Basics, where they ask sellers to hand over their leads and then months later Amazon introduces pretty m…
What are the circumstances under which the switch is hypothetically turned off at every AWS data center all at once? It just doesn't seem like a realistic scenario. Most ways in which Amazon could fail would involve either a bankruptcy spinning out aws into one or more holdings, or years of decline where people switch off of AWS anyway. Sure, if all of those data centers blew up, then yes it would be catastrophic for a few months.
> What I meant by that is also the money can ensure that new laws are not introduced, or investigations not carried out
I see where you're coming from, but it seem a little thin and unspecific. The Amazon Basics thing seems like a bad example. It's the same model grocery stores, Walmart, Lowes, and department stores have used for decades. And no one ever really complained before. In some cases Amazon is white labeling products from the brands they're now competing with. So those companies still capture a lot of the revenue.
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Nobody can know for sure. Whether or not they were secretly mining data from AWS servers, they would say they don't and nobody on the outside would be able to tell. Even if it's unlikely, many people are simply choosing not to risk it.
This is at the level of a conspiracy theory right now, and one that doesn't even make any sense. If it were true that Amazon were taking sneaky peeks at data inside AWS related to retailers, and this became public, AWS as a business would be done. The loud banging you'd be hearing would be the door closing as the last customer exited, followed by all the engineering staff who work on AWS as they see the writing on th…
Why on earth would you think that? They did worse on their storefront, which has a much smaller migration burden than AWS, and while a few big brands made a stink and pulled out, it didn't even noticeably slow growth.