Amazon knew seller data was used to boost company sales

Post by berkeleyjunk » Mon, May 03, 2021, 1:23 PM UTC

ctvo wrote: post #101

anotha1 wrote: post #92

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Given everything mentioned in your comment, I don't see how it implies that amazon can't cast a dragnet at some level you're not aware of.

Let's put it in terms of business. What does Amazon gain reading the data of retailers in AWS that they don't already have? How much more money would this make them? How much brand damage and lost of business to AWS (their most profitable organization) would they lose if this were to leak? The more prevalent their use of this AWS customer data, the higher the chance it gets leaked. Why do you think Amazon, one of the…

Post by swiley » Mon, May 03, 2021, 1:25 PM UTC

ch4s3 wrote: post #94

varispeed wrote: post #72

Amazon should be split into separate independent companies - logistics, AWS, marketplace and whatever else they do now. We need laws that will limit growth of companies to become too big to fail and have all the money to buy laws, destroy competition and in general do as they please without consequences. It's a loophole in capitalism that has to be closed. Big businesses should follow the same rules as your mom and p…

> too big to fail How is Amazon "too big to fail" in your opinion? That phrase "I think they're too large", it means that a business is so central to the functioning on the broader economy and to several other industries that their failure would tank the whole economy. Think Boeing or JP Morgan Chase Bank. > and have all the money to buy laws, What exact laws has Amazon bought?

Post by tasssko » Mon, May 03, 2021, 1:30 PM UTC

shiftpgdn wrote: post #100

alias_neo wrote: post #87

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I'm curious what kind of access Amazon would have to your data as a retailer running on AWS. Not in a technical sense, I'm a software engineer, I understand what data _is_ there, but more to the extent of, do they go out of their way to identify you, an AWS customer as a retail business and use that _retail_ data in ways such as described by the original complaint here? If the answer is anything other than "they defi…

Yes, of course they do. There was a post on here about a year ago from someone in the "Amazon profitability team" that involved digging through customers AWS instances to see what they could learn or duplicate for Amazon.

Post by rualca » Mon, May 03, 2021, 1:37 PM UTC

alfonsodev wrote: post #96

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> The price would regulate itself by offer/demand balance and you would still be able to buy it if you can afford it. No, not really. I shopped around. I picked the best for me. I want to buy from that company but it is already at your 10% limit. What then? Can I actually buy what I want?

if a company is maxing their sells, don't you think they will raise the price?, and play at a 9%, so there will be always room for new buyers willing to pay the price. And honestly is hard to debate because it's an vaguely defined hypothetical, I guess we are talking about situations where the state limits how much you can produce. I think is already happening if you think about Spanish Olive Oil for example, EU limi…

Post by whoknew1122 » Mon, May 03, 2021, 1:39 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #91

whoknew1122 wrote: post #84

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Amazon != AWS. As someone who has access to customer data in AWS, I'm very limited in what information I can access (to the point where it actively makes my job in Premium Support harder than it would be otherwise). I also have to provide a legitimate business reason for access to data. Not only is there an audit trail for what I do internally, but any calls I make to review customer data is published in the customer…

> This report has 0 to do with AWS Same company, leadership and culture. If you compete with Amazon, or could compete, it would be pretty stupid to put your jewels on AWS.