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Re: Yayagram

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Post by TeMPOraL »

kall wrote: post #36
thirdlamp wrote: post #12

On top of the points others in this thread have made, I think this is also a lesson for UX designers. It's really obvious how the Yayagram works and how to use it and this is how our UX should be.

I absolutely love it but is it really obvious how the jack connection thing works? I would imagine only to former switchboard operators and modular synthesizer players.

It should be obvious to just about anyone who was born in the last 100 years[0], as they should be all familiar with the basic principles of electrical devices: you power a device by connecting it with an outlet using a wire[1]. The underlying concept here is that a wire can transfer something useful from one point to another. Like electricity. Or, in this case, a voice signal.

Even if you found someone who's confused by the use of wire in this device, I think a 30 second explanation and demonstration would clear it up forever.

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[0] - Excepting the Sentinelese, and some other remaining groups with zero exposure to industrial-era technology - of which there's very few remaining on the planet.

[1] - And even in case of people who have never seen electrical devices, you can easily come up with a simple analogies to transfer this concept across all advancement levels. Voice traveling along a taut wire. Water flowing down the gutter. Grain rolling down a chute. Water dripping through, or flowing along, a soaked string. A bolas. Poking a bear with a stick. Etc.

Re: Yayagram

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Post by lupire »

donw wrote: post #122
chobytes wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bothers me to no end how many once simple devices have gone this way. I feel like I would be willing to pay more for simpler appliances at this point.

Oh, god, this. Specifically simple appliances that are designed to be repaired .

What's the benefit of having a dozen or more repairable appliances that use far more material and expense than an occasionally replaced all in one?

Re: Yayagram

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Post by lupire »

kaspm wrote: post #95
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #70

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Probably be a web service that does that for you. Like those old fax webservices.

My bank sometimes requires me to "fax" documents to them using a phone number. I download their electronic documents, upload them to my esigning programing, esign them, then e-fax them using the esigning program to their fax "number". I'm sure on their end, they download the electronic "fax" and put it directly into their document system. There is no paper at any point in this process.

What's the point of esign if they are never going to confirm it with the esign service?

Re: Yayagram

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Post by lupire »

aimor wrote: post #57

This is really neat. It has me thinking about my own grandma who loves getting pictures on her phone, but is that the best interface for her? What if I could send pictures and they'd automatically print out, I think she'd like that even more. I think it's funny because that's a pretty easy thing to set up, but I never considered it until now.

You'd need to constantly clean the printer and refill/change ink.

Better to use print and mail service.

Re: Yayagram

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Post by lupire »

spookyuser wrote: post #19

This is incredible, I wish there were more analogue centered devices for older people with both hearing and vision loss. The combination makes it virtually impossible to interact with any well designed software because it's all touch screen and way too complicated. But also makes it impossible to interact with the limited number of phones with analogue buttons because they are usually feature phones with even worse d…

Would a touch screen monitor with a clean UI be so hard to use?

Re: Yayagram

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Post by lupire »

Breza wrote: post #170
eric_h wrote: post #151

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> you also probably need a notification to reload the paper roll as you come to the end. I think you just buy the paper rolls that are pink for the last (innermost) few feet of the roll.

Knowing some of the older people in my family, I'd be an hour into a phone call when they'd casually mention that their message box hasn't worked for the past month since it ran out of paper but they didn't want to be a bother and make me come over and fix it.

Add software to count how much paper is used and remind the maintenance tech when it's time for refill.

Re: Yayagram

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Post by dakial1 »

Since I had kids, I've started using Google Photos automatic Albums (with face recognition) to share photos of my kids to the family (really out of my lazyness of sending it through whatsapp groups). My wife's grandma (86 y/o) is in that shared group and see the photos e-v-e-r-y-d-a-y. Recently she shared how important it is to her to see her grandgrandkids videos and photos during these lockdown times. There is all this talk abou how tecnology keep us apart but there are many use cases, like this, where it helps brings us together. In the past (grand)grandparents would stay months or even years without seeing and following their families lifes.

Re: Yayagram

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Post by sedatk »

pedrogpimenta wrote: post #161
askvictor wrote: post #143

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Perhaps (depending on yaya's ability), it could detect a low-paper situation, and send a message to the creator, or perhaps order a new one directly?

These rolls usually have red lines on the last bit to warn you that it is getting to the end. Like this: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51mKXo5QBML...

Thanks, that’s much better. I hope yaya notices it and lets her grandson now.

Re: Yayagram

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Post by viciousvoxel »

roamingryan wrote: post #83

I built out a simple "technology access" solution for my late grandma about five years ago. It was just some simple scripts running on a raspberry pi. The scripts would fetch emails from a gmail account, extract the attachments, and display them on loop. The subject line of the email, sender and the date were overlayed on the image. The advantage over those IoT picture frame products was that I could use any display…

Kudos to you for doing that, and I'm sorry for your loss. I set up something similar a couple years ago for my 94-yo grandmother with failing eyesight, though my solution was a bit more off-the-shelf; I set up an old 32" TV and chromecast as a smart picture frame that would rotate through images from a specific Google Photos album. I then sent out a link and gave write access to the album to all of our family. Unfortunately it's now getting to the point where she even has trouble seeing those pictures. We also had success setting her up with an Echo with our Amazon Prime (got Unlimited Books) account to facilitate her listening to Audible books; every couple weeks or so we make her a curated list of Audible titles on Prime and she checks off which ones she wants and someone will load those up for her. The best part is that with her newer hearing aids, the Echo can play straight into her head over Bluetooth!

Re: Yayagram

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Post by sgt »

Cool! So.. as much as I love the Yayagram, I think people underestimate the elderly and willingness to learn something that "makes sense" and technology that does not work against them.

To give an example, my 103 year old grandmother didn't know a thing about computers until we gave her an iPad about 6 years ago. Now she's available on FaceTime and e-mails. For some reason she doesn't find messaging interesting. She has a variety of hobbies (like knitting, reading and TV) but she checks the news both in paper format and on the iPad.

I am actually so thankful that iOS is relatively easy to understand and that Apple spent those millions on UX, because it could easily have gone the other way with technology working against her.

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