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No. "Apple blocked Facebook from informing users that Apple would collect 30 percent of in-app purchases made through a planned new feature, Facebook tells Reuters. Apple said the update violated an App Store rule that doesn’t let developers show “irrelevant” information to users" https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/28/21405140/apple-rejects-fa...
That’s a related, but separate issue. My point is that app developers know about the fees. Apple doesn’t hide them. The issue you’re describing is more of whether Apple should allow App Store developers display messages to the end user of their apps saying that Apple is skimming off the top. Similar to how it would be if Apple said Visa will take 2% or whatever.
The developers are creating value for Apple by improving their app ecosystem but Apple is acting like they are doing the developers a favor.
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The problem is not the rules themselves. The rules applies to Spotify, but not to Apple music. Apple should make Apple music a separate entity, and make it pay 30%.
No company should have the power to tell another company that they must split up into separate entities.
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Steam also has a tax but you still have a choice as a developer or as a gamer. Cyberpunk is on Steam, Gog, Epic and maybe other stores(there are many such games where you as the user can decide what store you trust , what is more comfortable for you or what company you like more). If you are an iOS developer and and 2 other stores would exists, then you would publish on all to maximize your profit, and hard core Appl…
That would be great if stores weren't pushing so much for 'exclusives'. I fear that the endgame of multiple App stores is that the guarantee Apple gives (for instance with the privacy labels) will be sidestepped by businesses like Facebook who will force people through their own store without them. Seeing how many people don't read the small print and just install everything available to them that's the most probable…
Exclusives are not that many and instead of fighting like idiots to have only one store we could ask laws to block artificial exclusives.
On PC is not a big deal to install Origin and play a game if you are desperate, on iOS you can't install stuff without a big effort to jailbreak your device (though you can do it on OSX and I did not see any malware/viruses or similar complaints)
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As the topic has been beat to death a million times, the danger is that adding additional app stores will result in decreases in the exact thing the OP likes the App Store for. All of the hard work fighting for privacy, security, etc., goes out the window. Facebook will put their app on a 3rd party store and now we’re back to them and others abusing privacy and tracking users and not sharing what and how they’re trac…
This is FUD. iOS will have the sandbox, if some shitty app ask "Do you want me to open the microphone now?" the user can still say NO, if the app asks "Please give me access to location!" the user can still say No, or Apple could even be clever and offer the user the ability to give fake location data, From your point of view iOS users are so stupid that they shold not be allowed to use a OSX device or a browser(not…
But long story short, I like things as they are and don't want them to change. If developers don't like that they can kick rocks. I'd rather have no apps and no App Store than to see things change, frankly.
> From your point of view iOS users are so stupid that they
No.. that's not my point of view or relevant at all to anything I wrote.
> shold not be allowed to use a OSX device or a browser
Well, judging by all the requests I get to fix things on computers versus iPhones...
> not sure if you know but browsers ahve access to camera
Yes you have to give the browser permission.
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Apple holds a gigantic market in their grasp and by controlling it so tightly and by forcing everyone to use their billing, they give the customers what they want . If iOS becomes the android wild west it'll kill the entire selling point of the iPhone. To me, the iPhone is the equivalent of buying a games console instead of a gaming PC. Less flexibility, less to worry about. 'Its just a phone'.
>>If iOS becomes the android wild west it'll kill the entire selling point of the iPhone. What always baffles me, truly leaves me flabbergasted and confused, is.....who is going to force you to use any other app store other than the Apple Store?? I'm on Android, and yes, there are other stores that exist - you can download the Amazon Fire store or many others, or even sideload apps......or......shocking......you can…
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If you sign up for Spotify outside of the app then Apple sees 0 of that revenue. And yet they are then also hosting and distributing apps for these companies. I think they’ll probably start charging companies like Spotify a banana amount of money to be on the App Store or on iOS at all if they lose these legal battles. I think the pull of the iPhone is far stronger than any app and there are many developers waiting f…
Every major app that iOS missed would be a significant dollar amount of sales that Apple would lose. If Netflix or Spotify or PrimeVideo wasn't available on iOS, not only would that be a marketing disaster, it would yield sales consequences. This ignores the catastrophic regulatory consequences they are already poised to incur. Apple runs the app store for users (people like me who in aggregate have made it the most…
That's not a claim I've made in any way, shape, or form. Please don't misrepresent things I've written based on your own self-projections.
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I think argument about 30% is not that good. There is a number of services that Apple provides like software distribution, updates distribution, reviews (even though they don't benefit software creator directly, they build trust in the platform and attract more users), invoicing, regardless on the location (this one is really big - getting a single invoice from Apple instead of dealing with potentially thousands of d…
Apple doesnt need to charge any fee (like how macs and pcs never charged a fee to install apps), they get enough benefits from the millions of apps that enrich their platforms, that they otherwise wouldn't ever build themselves. This whole perverse 'ecosystem' exists because of the skewed oligopoly dynamics of mobile phones.
This would not be permitted on other platforms, but mobile devices seem to have a new level of monopoly.
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That fact is key to the advantage that the iPhone ecosystem offers. I, and millions of users like me, like the closed garden. I’m effectively outsourcing the duties implied by caveat emptor to Apple. I don’t have the time/inclination to check the safety & honesty of each app developer.
"millions of users like me, like the closed garden." Alcapone was popular, but he was still a criminal and a murderer