It is terrible abuse and disgusting. Keep no silence, sue the predator and send him to where he deserve to be.
My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community
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Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community
#52You'd think this type of behaviour wouldn't happen anymore, given the whole MeToo movement and people constantly complaining about getting cancelled.
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#53I have no clue on who this guy is nor do I have any sort of interest in Scala but this is terrible. If this is even remotely true I hope he suffers enormous consequences including being persecuted. How are people still getting away with this kind of abuse? How?
> How are people still getting away with this kind of abuse? How? Read the comments in this thread six hours from now and you'll understand.
bring in the stallmanites!
I for one am glad there is someone to stand up for him - it makes it very easy to tell who wants to cherrypick and debate semantics due to their own biases.
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#54I have no clue on who this guy is nor do I have any sort of interest in Scala but this is terrible. If this is even remotely true I hope he suffers enormous consequences including being persecuted. How are people still getting away with this kind of abuse? How?
>How are people still getting away with this kind of abuse? How? It's quite simple, really. You know that phenomenon you see here on HN with big names like Steve Jobs or RMS, or Elon Musk? The phenomenon where people give them a pass for being disgusting, abusive assholes because "he's a genius/luminary/visionary" or because "his contributions to $thing are so great"? It's the same phenomenon with people like Jon Pre…
Alternatively: people diluting the signal, where people bring up serious accusations of rape, and then others show up and compare it to people who are considered assholes by some.
Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community
#55The "share an AirBnB to be able to afford the conference" part seems particularly damning to me. That seems entirely premeditated and predatory.
To me it sounds generous and possibly completely harmless.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How are people still getting away with this kind of abuse? How? Read the comments in this thread six hours from now and you'll understand.
I think I know what you are trying to say and I agree but I’m also on the camp that Richard Stallman didn’t say anything necessarily wrong, just awkward. On the one hand I want people to be able to to speak their minds but on the other hand this guy might be a sexual predator at best and a serial rapist at worst. and he is getting away with it!
You're apologising for a serial sexual harasser. You are the problem.
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#57Jon Pretty sounds like a complete creep and yes, based on this account, a predator. That being said, there is a court and criminal justice system for a reason. While I empathize with the author, and utterly despise the archetype of high-status men who use their status within programming communities as a tool to target women, I find the nature of these kinds of posts to be counterproductive. Therapeutic to the author?…
I'm sure what your brother faced is terrible but how exactly does this relate to the story?
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
no, a lynching is a murder by a racist mob this is a community realizing that John Pretty is a predator and deciding that they don't want a predator in a position of power frankly, it's weird as hell for you to be confusing those two things
>no, a lynching is a murder by a racist mob no, a lynching is an extra-legal murder by a mob.
In the US, lynching has extremely strong implications of racist violence. It's not strictly the definition of the word, but most folks in the states will understand a lynching to imply race related murders.
Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community
#59Jon Pretty sounds like a complete creep and yes, based on this account, a predator. That being said, there is a court and criminal justice system for a reason. While I empathize with the author, and utterly despise the archetype of high-status men who use their status within programming communities as a tool to target women, I find the nature of these kinds of posts to be counterproductive. Therapeutic to the author?…
> heard from someone in HR that the charges were false, but "optics" were the reason they had to move forward with his termination. Time to name the company.
A massive company that makes overpriced, low-quality athletic products that double as status symbols, which they manufacture overseas (often using child labor) but then sell for massive markups in the US, Europe, etc. They have an extremely aggressive "woke" presence in their advertising, because as long as you care about social justice for your targeted customers, who cares that "people of color" in the developing world are being paid slave wages to create your products. You probably know who I'm talking about now, but I'm not going to name them.
Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community
#60> I don’t remember how much I drank. I don’t remember him drinking. But I remember feeling uncomfortable when he made advances on me. I felt being taken advantage of that he had unprotected sex with me when I was intoxicated. Nothing felt right. I remember panicking and crying. I don't want to victim blame here because this guy sounds like a grade A creep and predator. But does a person not have some responsibility h…
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>> But does a person not have some responsibility here to not get so intoxicated when alone with a member of the opposite sex in a private space?
No. You are shifting the blame to the victim here. You should not be assaulted/attacked/whatever whether you are sober, tipsy, drunk, unconscious.